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[Viewpoint]

if this is not straight out of the propaganda book i don't know what is.

you think the past can justify the present, with illegalities? there are no descent people in the north?, do you kids do drus as well?

ps. this is not a go at your kids or your family, but i am using it as an example. and i hope they steer away from such life destructions

If you kindly connect my response to the previous post you will be able to work what I am saying, we are all to blame for the current situation on the island and as long as we do not resolve anything then these things will continue. I have no magic wand to correct things and the drugs youth problem is terrible but its a worldwide problem and not just unique to the north. Its also rampant in the south not only after the border opened it was there well before.

[miltiades]

VP WROTE:
"""we are all to blame for the current situation on the island and as long as we do not resolve anything then these things will continue. """
Well , at least for once we concur that we are all to blame for our island's problems affecting our people.

[Viewpoint]

VP WROTE:
"""we are all to blame for the current situation on the island and as long as we do not resolve anything then these things will continue. """
Well , at least for once we concur that we are all to blame for our island's problems affecting our people.

I admit to may things its just that you do not pick up on those all you see is what you want to see. Try questioning yourself as well.

[pitsilos]

if this is not straight out of the propaganda book i don't know what is.

you think the past can justify the present, with illegalities? there are no descent people in the north?, do you kids do drus as well?

ps. this is not a go at your kids or your family, but i am using it as an example. and i hope they steer away from such life destructions

If you kindly connect my response to the previous post you will be able to work what I am saying, we are all to blame for the current situation on the island and as long as we do not resolve anything then these things will continue. I have no magic wand to correct things and the drugs youth problem is terrible but its a worldwide problem and not just unique to the north. Its also rampant in the south not only after the border opened it was there well before.

i never denied evil is every where. but for a small place it sounds its out of control with the authorities up to their elbows. yes in the roc you have users, but the authorities are far removed.

when in fact you have 40,000 soldiers to control it if you wanted to. why not put them to good use, instead of supplying them with a 5 star holiday. and no offence here, i am just trying to understand as to why the authorities are so tolerant.

[humanist]

because without the drugs the trnc could not economically stay alive and poor turkey doesn't have enough to feed her people so they allow the drug traficking to continue as it keeps the economy ticking until a better day comes along. for me if i were turkish speaking cypriot re-unification and have same rights and opportunities and a share of the wealth as other cypriots or unify with turkey and still continue being impoverished.

[RichardB]

Quote:
Over US$15 billion worth of illicit drugs are trafficked annually from Turkey to foreign markets through the occupied north of the island, a Turkish Cypriot professor has disclosed.
Zeki Besiktepeli told the House Crime Committee that quantities of drugs are smuggled into the government-controlled south of the island under the direction of the Turkish army’s secret services.
Most of the $15 bln drug business involves heroin.
Besiktepeli – who has carried out a study into the casino phenomenon - told the Committee that casinos operating in the north are effectively run by the Turkish and Turkish Cypriot mob and are part of a wider network involving people and drug trafficking.
The academic said 21 casinos in the north generate an annual revenue of US$500m of which $200m ends up in the illegal regime’s coffers in the form of taxes.
He said it’s an “open secret” that 2% of casino-generated revenue ends up in the pocket of an unnamed Turkish Cypriot ‘minister’ to ensure the gambling establishments are allowed to operate trouble-free.
Moreover, other Turkish Cypriot ‘cabinet ministers’ are bribed with mob money.
Saying that he has become a target of the illegal regime’s scorn, Besiktepeli said that 80% of families living in the north are against casinos.
“The casino (business) is a triangle. At one corner are casinos, on the other is the mafia and on the other are drugs,” said Besiktepeli.
Asked if his life is at risk, Besiktepeli said his disclosure to the committee is common knowledge in the north and that there is a common will to shut the casinos down for the sake of protecting young people

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What is the source of this article?

If we assume it is true then we should not be apportioning blame to just one section of the community

If this is happening then it WILL affect communities both north and south and further afield as I'm sure that the North is just being used as a staging post for the distribution of illegal substances.

Surely this is an area where the law enforcement agencies of both sides should been combining their efforts to put a stop to this. Irrespective of the political situation.

This is a lot of drugs ruining a lot of innocent lives and needs to be stopped irrespective of who's to blame.

Would it not be above all sides of the political spectrum (including members of this forum) to stand up and say 'Put a stop to this evil trade NOW' Instead of posting sarcastic 'Point Scoring' jibes

[humanist]

Richard firstly I like to say I agree with your coment fully. But if I may be a devil's advocate, it is evil trade if you perceive it as such. you and i may conceive and understnd and label it as such. However if the article has any truth to it, if it is not perceived as such by the leadership in the north because it is used to fund the national budget .... then there is no probem.

[RichardB]

...if it is not perceived as such by the leadership in the north because it is used to fund the national budget . then there is no probem.

On the contrary humanist I would say that if the leadership in the north is condoning this and using prodedes to fund the national budget then there is a major problem.

However on reading the article (which I've just found out was published in Cyprus Mail) It seems that the Ministers allegedly involved are lining their own pockets and not funding the budget with the procedes.

[Pyrpolizer]

Just a question to everyone:
In the 70s Turkey was the No1 Country blamed for the production and export of drugs. Especially in Europe and USA. What happened ever since? Has Turkey stopped producing?

Or have the partnerships got so much bonded that everything was silenced?

What is the Turkish Army's major bussiness?:wink:

What is the major bussiness of Kurdish PKK?:wink:

[GAVCARoCOM]

Yeah,
This is great idea. I was always thinking that they should build a city ( Near alagadi) somewhere which is gannavuri and smilar soft drugs will allowed legally. I mean look amsterdam , even paris hilton flied there to try some. This will pull a lot of tourist trust me .