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[Viewpoint]

Lets assume that a solution will never occur which is very likely under the current climate. Do we hold on for ever? do we allow GCs to hold us hostage and not allow us to develop like other countries? say we held off developing GC land how long? 10 20 40 years? isn't this a natural way to develop when other channels are blocked by the south? please think about it if you were on this side of the fence.

Surely we can solve this by allowing GCs to return to the TRNC if they wish the alternative is waiting for a solution that may never arrive.

The property commission is a good start I totally agree that GC applications should be dealt with speedily and positively. Settlers should be rehoused and GCs given back or current prices should be paid for those refugees who choose compensation.

[Bill]

and whatever happened to the TC properties in the south?

They are there -- waiting for your return .

In fact if you wanted to make your home in the south it wouldn't be impossible and you would get your previous home back.

As for land -- a small percentage has been taken -- some has been used for refugee housing -- some ( before someone states this ) has been used for improvements of a national importance i.e. -- extention to the airport -- road improvements the rest is still waiting for you to return.

But let me make one thing clear -- except for one small isolated instance in Paphos a few years ago ( I believe those responsible were jailed )

NO TURKISH CYPRIOT OWNED LAND IN THE ROC HAS BEEN SOLD TO FORIEGNERS TO BUILD VILLA'S ON AND NO PROPERTIES OWNED BY TURKISH CYPRIOTS HAS BEEN SOLD TO A FOREIGNER

UNLIKE THE NORTH -- WHERE IT SEEMS THAT LAND PREVIOUSLY OCCUPIED BY GREEK CYPRIOTS IS BEING SOLD OFF TO ANYONE AND EVERYONE ON A VAST SCALE.

sorry for shouting but you lot sitting on previously Greek occupied land smiling your smug smiles do make me sick sometimes .

Bill

[miltiades]

VP WROTE:

""""do we allow GCs to hold us hostage and not allow us to develop like other countries?""""

To develop like other countries ??? What other countries do you know that resemble a part of Cyprus under foreign occupation. Wake up and stop dreaming, Cyprus is ONE COUNTRY. The part , that only you recognise , is the occupied part of Cyprus , you do really talk a load of bollocks. But then that is what you are paid to do .

[Viewpoint]

VP WROTE:

""""do we allow GCs to hold us hostage and not allow us to develop like other countries?""""

To develop like other countries ??? What other countries do you know that resemble a part of Cyprus under foreign occupation. Wake up and stop dreaming, Cyprus is ONE COUNTRY. The part , that only you recognise , is the occupied part of Cyprus , you do really talk a load of bollocks. But then that is what you are paid to do .

Why do you not address the whole post and not isolate just one area, the fact that we cannot unite is not one sided when you realize this? dont forget the last attempt was resounding rejected by your side.

[Simon]

Paaul,

Why? That says it all. If you don't even know why that second question in particular is important, then there is no point continuing any further.

If you do occupy stolen land then you are no better than scum. Pure and simple; and your opinions won't count for much either, as it is obvious that you are only here to justify your crimes, nothing else. Capitalising on the misery of others.....how can you sleep at night?

[Viewpoint]

and whatever happened to the TC properties in the south?

They are there -- waiting for your return .

In fact if you wanted to make your home in the south it wouldn't be impossible and you would get your previous home back.

As for land -- a small percentage has been taken -- some has been used for refugee housing -- some ( before someone states this ) has been used for improvements of a national importance i.e. -- extention to the airport -- road improvements the rest is still waiting for you to return.

But let me make one thing clear -- except for one small isolated instance in Paphos a few years ago ( I believe those responsible were jailed )

NO TURKISH CYPRIOT OWNED LAND IN THE ROC HAS BEEN SOLD TO FORIEGNERS TO BUILD VILLA'S ON AND NO PROPERTIES OWNED BY TURKISH CYPRIOTS HAS BEEN SOLD TO A FOREIGNER

UNLIKE THE NORTH -- WHERE IT SEEMS THAT LAND PREVIOUSLY OCCUPIED BY GREEK CYPRIOTS IS BEING SOLD OFF TO ANYONE AND EVERYONE ON A VAST SCALE.

sorry for shouting but you lot sitting on previously Greek occupied land smiling your smug smiles do make me sick sometimes .

Bill

To claim our properties we are forced to reside in the "Roc" what do we do with our real lives? and then we have to go to court which takes many years and a legal system which is not really helpful to TCs for some reason, suprise suprise. And for people like my morther who home has been raised to the ground she has to wait for a solution to get compensation......when we talk about those arrested for sale of TC land how do we know this is not the tip of the iceberg?

[Bill]

" This stance of the Greek Cypriots administration, which has destroyed most of the Turkish Cypriot properties in the South and/or compulsorily acquired them, is tantamount to saying that the South is now closed to Turkish Cypriot owners, but Greek Cypriot owners are entitled to their properties in the North."

Nothing could be further from the truth read my previous post.

It is true that a lot of properties that have not been occupied by the large number of refugees have fallen into a state of disrepair and I see much the same in the north -- with the exception that the Turkish property in the south hasn't been vandalised like in the north -- I'm talking of fixtures and fittings removed including doors and windows from many Greek Cypriot houses that have not been occupied by Turkish Cypriots refugees in various villages .

I'm not going to comment on the political situation and it's not my place to do so as I'm not Cypriot but I can comment on what I see at ground level with my own eyes.

Bill

[eracles]

VP WROTE:

""""do we allow GCs to hold us hostage and not allow us to develop like other countries?""""

To develop like other countries ??? What other countries do you know that resemble a part of Cyprus under foreign occupation. Wake up and stop dreaming, Cyprus is ONE COUNTRY. The part , that only you recognise , is the occupied part of Cyprus , you do really talk a load of bollocks. But then that is what you are paid to do .

Why do you not address the whole post and not isolate just one area, the fact that we cannot unite is not one sided when you realize this? dont forget the last attempt was resounding rejected by your side.

C'mon guys, I reckon if we keep things civilised we get a lot more out of these threads....VP - I think the building boom is another nail in the coffin. With all the settlers bought in changing the irreversibly changing the demographic of Cyprus, the selling and building of GC land and property, the bargaining chip of Famagusta - it's a very painful thing, and these things are used in conjunction with the power of Turkey to bring the GCs to their knees and accept some kind of partition. What kind of a solution is that. The perfect solution for the TCs?

Edit: uh oh, i'm veering off topic, damn it's so easy

[Bill]

oops duplicate posting --- sorry

[miltiades]

Here the village idiot goes again, A nation recognised by every single country on this planet , including the 28 listed Muslim countries , this daydreamer propagandist plays the same boring tune. "ROC" , what a load of crap from a "has been "propagandist who has been found out. Look for another job mate you have been warned !!