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[the_snake_and_the_crane]

well im Cypriot, and im very happy to see you squeel like a little girl and run for your beloved UN resolutions when cornered

Haha...who's the one constantly moaning like a bitch about these so-called 'embargoes' the TC have put themselves under.

[humanist]

Shahmaran, I think we have over and over again stated thatwe could live with turkish speaking cypriots, it is my understanding from this forum that it is the turkish cypriot population of this Island that do not want to live with greek speaking cypriots.

perhaps the RoC ought to expell Israeli embasy from Cyprus.

[the_snake_and_the_crane]

I think if Israel did fly to the occupied areas it would be GOOD propaganda for the Cyprus cause.

What Turkey has done to the Cypriots will be emphasised even more in comparison to what Israel has done to the Palaestinians - especially as both countries are strong allies.

Just think about it - you'll see copies of the Socialist Worker newspaper saying "TURKEY OUT OF CYPRUS" and those little stickers you see on lamposts saying the same. All those lefties who have jumped on the Palestinian cause bandwagon will jump on the Cyprus one too - and just how we saw Jewish illegal occupants being taken away from the land they stole - the same will happen to Cyprus too!!!

The crimes of Turkey will be focused on even more with the stronger link they will forge with Israel!!

Israel is like THE most unpopular state in the world - the last thing you guys want is them being the only ones to recognise the occupation in the north hahaha. The PR effect would be a disastor / star/ ster...whatever!!!!!!

Go for it! Lets hope it happens!!!! Ive met Israelis that go on holiday in Cyprus and many of them are arrogant and tell me how their uncles could by the whole of Ayia Napa and how much better Israel is!!! Take em! fuck it!...lol.

[humanist]

There will be no legal flights to the occupied areas of Cyprus the British have already tried and to my amazement the Americans had stated back then that legally it cannot happen. The fact that there has not been direct flights to the occupied areas for the past 32 years I think is a clear indication that unless a solution is found it is highly unlikely that there will be flights to the occupied areas in a hurry.

My best sugestion would be lets start talking about getting our country together and bringing all cypriots together rather than keeping each other apart.

The RoC needs to educate people from overseas that purchasing refugee land is illegal and that penalties apply. Then if people break the law they have already been told and warned. Mr Talat who claims to want Unification needs to stop the ilegal sale of land also otherwise he is talking crap. He needs to make it clear to his people this is not a practice that will take us closer to unification, he also needs to make those thieves who sell land available to the RoC for legal court proceedings. If he inot ready to do this then he is wasting people's time including the UN because he is just bluffing or following Turkeys lawless and unethical stance.

[shahmaran]

humanist i dont think your view can be applied to the mass, im sure the percentage is similar, specially when it was the Greeks who said no to the annan plan

and snakey, you can sleep with such theories if it makes you feel better, but the point is that that will be the first of the many countries to start recognizing, wether you like it or not, and i wouldnt be so quick to judge the Turks, when the Greeks have commited many crimes as well and they are pretty good friends with the Kurdish separatist terrorist group PKK

[the_snake_and_the_crane]

Humanist - we all know Talat is full of sh!t and has on a few occassions made himself to look like a muppet.

Shahmaran...

and snakey, you can sleep with such theories if it makes you feel better, but the point is that that will be the first of the many countries to start recognizing, wether you like it or not

Do you honestly deep down still believe this or do you like living a dream?

and i wouldnt be so quick to judge the Turks, when the Greeks have commited many crimes as well and they are pretty good friends with the Kurdish separatist terrorist group PKK

I dont think you can compare Greek crimes to Turkish ones - again, just another peice of rhetroric you use to make yourself feel better.

when the Greeks have commited many crimes as well and they are pretty good friends with the Kurdish separatist terrorist group PKK

Although many Greek people were upset when this happened...but wasnt it Greece who were forced to turn over Ocalan to the international authorities when he was in a Greek embassy??? Look at the bigger picture, how many people who follow international politics around the world empathise with the Kurdish cause as opposed Turkey's stance on the problem?

Its only a matter of time till there is a Kurdish state.

Besides, most external people who follow international politics arent stupid. The Armenian genocide is going to make more news again, so will Turkey's Kurdish problem when there will be a new Kurdish state. The Cyprus problem is also bound to hit the news again soon.

You telling me people will be suckered into thinking that big bad Turkey, with all their well documented human rights abuses against minorities, are really victims and smaller countries and communties such as the Kurds, the Armenians and the Cypriots are the aggressors!?

Keep on dream Shahmone!!!

[shahmaran]

you are a fool, armeninan genocide is still not recognized everywhere and it seems like its only turkey that is willing to investigate the case properly (and armenians are totally against this), kurds can keep fighting turkey for a state but they will get as far as the GCs have got and ocalan was never turned over by the Greeks, turkey had to go hunt the fucker down in an african country who tipped off the turkish authorities, so i dont know what planet you come from but on earth, these are the facts, and if no country recognizes us then fine, we will just wait longer eventually we will become a turkish state and you can kiss goodbye to half of your island , but meanwhile people like you can bitch all they like about the big bad turkey and open up as many propaganda sites and use as many vetos as you like, doesnt change a thing, the truth of the matter is that the Greeks have FUCKED UP in cyprus big time, and thats the root of the problem, so you can try ignore that as much as you like but we wont...

[reportfromcyprus]

Is it possible that after the recent arrest of an Israeli travelling through Larnaca, the consequences will now be?

Green Light from Tel Aviv to direct flights to the TRNC
Turkish Cypriot daily VATAN newspaper (18.02.07) reports under the above title and says: Israeli Prime Minister Ehud Olmert, gave important signals as regards the starting of direct flights from Tel-Aviv to the TRNC. Olmert, for direct flights to the TRNC which is a favourite place for Israeli tourists, pointed out the EL-AL which was privatized.
During Olmert´s meeting with the Prime Minister Tayyip Erdogan and the Foreign Minister Gul, direct flights to the TRNC was on the agenda as well.
Erdogan and Gul raised this issue in the context of steps towards removing of isolations on the TRNC and, following this request, Olmert said that something could be done on this.
Pointing out the EL AL which was privatized recently (Olmert) said: You know we have recently privatized the EL-AL. They are a trading company now. You know we have opened up the path before the businessmen and we will continue to do so. We do not meddle in their affairs. We do not talk to them but you can go and talk to them. Olmert went on and added: Go and talk to them, we will not be in your way.
As for the TRNC´s request to open a trade or tourism office in Tel Aviv, Olmert said: I have received your request, I will look into it and I will reply as soon as possible. It became known that Mr Olmert will evaluate this request from the point of common undertakings that exist between Israel and the EU.

Well done, and thank you Greek Cyprus

There's no confirmation of this story, and since El Al has just stopped flights to Pafos and Larnaka because of cost and security reasons, it seems unlikely that they'd start them up to a legally disputed destination.

[Viewpoint]

you are a fool, armeninan genocide is still not recognized everywhere and it seems like its only turkey that is willing to investigate the case properly (and armenians are totally against this), kurds can keep fighting turkey for a state but they will get as far as the GCs have got and ocalan was never turned over by the Greeks, turkey had to go hunt the fucker down in an african country who tipped off the turkish authorities, so i dont know what planet you come from but on earth, these are the facts, and if no country recognizes us then fine, we will just wait longer eventually we will become a turkish state and you can kiss goodbye to half of your island , but meanwhile people like you can bitch all they like about the big bad turkey and open up as many propaganda sites and use as many vetos as you like, doesnt change a thing, the truth of the matter is that the Greeks have FUCKED UP in cyprus big time, and thats the root of the problem, so you can try ignore that as much as you like but we wont...

Great post.. why do these people always bring up the Armenians and Kurds, what have they got to do with us? Turkey is big and strong enough to fight her own battles and she will to the very end. Regurgitating the same shit about Armenians and Kurds like some sort of threat doesn't achieve anything but inflames and diverts from an already very sensitive Cyprus issue. If you want to argue pro Armenian and Kurd go find the relevant site and do it there, this is a Cyprus forum.

[shahmaran]

Agreed, is just that some desperate Turk haters need to throw anything they could get their hands on when they are cornered, its very easy to spot a Turk hater, they instantly start listing everything that is bad about Turks whether its relevant or not by ignoring everything their nation has done, simply because they still hold this grudge that has been evolving through out their generations for no apparent reason....I'm starting to believe that it has developed to become something of a genetic reason throughout some of the Greeks to be against Turks, they seem to see us as their ultimate enemy and the destructor of their cause and maybe even subconsciously, a threat to their existence, and you know what, sometimes I'm actually glad that simply my existence can piss off so many people, i like watching them drown in their own fear...