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[Viewpoint]

The world's brand names are here, and RoC can't threaten Coca Cola, Ford, Nokia etc.

@ Observer,

I'm sure you can get anything in the "TRNC" as anyone else, but is that not because almost all foreign brands have to go through Turkey first. So, in another words, anything sold in the "TRNC" is basically "second hand", and perhaps even more expensive than, the same items bought in Turkey, because of the "middle men", and I did mean "men" as in plural.

So, who are buying these products. Is it purely for tourist and foreign pensioners, or can the locals also afford to buy them.?

VP said he "may be rich", so perhaps he has no problems affording them, but how about the less unfortunate.

I'm just asking.

Your visit to the TRNC will be an eye opener for you Kikapu, it will help you erase the misconceptions you have about the "regime" type living and the TCs in general.

[Kikapu]

Were I a shopkeeper I might be able to give you a fuller answer. I can only give you the evidence of my eyes, which is that TCs are now driving round in smarter cars than they were a few years ago, wearing smarter clothes, and buying bigger houses.

I think economists call this the trickle down theory. In other words, if there is more money about, everyone gets a little bit richer, some not so much as others true, but everyone with a stake in the economy benefits.

Yes, that was Ronald Reagan's saying in the 80's, "trickle down economics" which was an empty promise really, so that the rich can get richer, while the rest had to settle for the "trickle" but for the TC's, trickle down from what exactly. A lot of people in the States and the UK, have borrowed money against their homes, which has built equity, due to the "housing bubble", so people go and buy more expensive stuff, and not because they have the cash in their hands, but they end up getting further into debt, just so, they can keep up with the "Jonh's". As Pyropolizer has said before, if the TC's who sell their land or GC land obtained through the "land exchange" for peanuts, so that they can get some money to buy the things you have mentioned, what will they have left to sell, after that money is depleted.

[Kikapu]

The world's brand names are here, and RoC can't threaten Coca Cola, Ford, Nokia etc.

@ Observer,

I'm sure you can get anything in the "TRNC" as anyone else, but is that not because almost all foreign brands have to go through Turkey first. So, in another words, anything sold in the "TRNC" is basically "second hand", and perhaps even more expensive than, the same items bought in Turkey, because of the "middle men", and I did mean "men" as in plural.

So, who are buying these products. Is it purely for tourist and foreign pensioners, or can the locals also afford to buy them.?

VP said he "may be rich", so perhaps he has no problems affording them, but how about the less unfortunate.

I'm just asking.

Your visit to the TRNC will be an eye opener for you Kikapu, it will help you erase the misconceptions you have about the "regime" type living and the TCs in general.

VP,

I'm just asking, if there are no direct imports into the "TRNC" from outside world, does that not mean, all foreign products must be coming in from Turkey or the RoC. Also, are you telling me, an average TC can afford most of these products, due to their income or what.

If this is not correct, then I apologize.

[Viewpoint]

The world's brand names are here, and RoC can't threaten Coca Cola, Ford, Nokia etc.

@ Observer,

I'm sure you can get anything in the "TRNC" as anyone else, but is that not because almost all foreign brands have to go through Turkey first. So, in another words, anything sold in the "TRNC" is basically "second hand", and perhaps even more expensive than, the same items bought in Turkey, because of the "middle men", and I did mean "men" as in plural.

So, who are buying these products. Is it purely for tourist and foreign pensioners, or can the locals also afford to buy them.?

VP said he "may be rich", so perhaps he has no problems affording them, but how about the less unfortunate.

I'm just asking.

Your visit to the TRNC will be an eye opener for you Kikapu, it will help you erase the misconceptions you have about the "regime" type living and the TCs in general.

VP,

I'm just asking, if there are no direct imports into the "TRNC" from outside world, does that not mean, all foreign products must be coming in from Turkey or the RoC. Also, are you telling me, an average TC can afford most of these products, due to their income or what.

If this is not correct, then I apologize.

Products can be imported direct to the TRNC if there is a shippng link eg UK otherwise containers are shipped via Turkey, and just like in all countries some buy brand names and some buy other products according to their budgets. The TRNC distributor of BMW received and award for selling the most BMWs in the middle east, that must tell you something. I get the impression you will be in for a shock when you visit the north and see exactly how the average TC lives, now the trend is flat screen TVs...everyone has to have one.

[Kikapu]

The world's brand names are here, and RoC can't threaten Coca Cola, Ford, Nokia etc.

@ Observer,

I'm sure you can get anything in the "TRNC" as anyone else, but is that not because almost all foreign brands have to go through Turkey first. So, in another words, anything sold in the "TRNC" is basically "second hand", and perhaps even more expensive than, the same items bought in Turkey, because of the "middle men", and I did mean "men" as in plural.

So, who are buying these products. Is it purely for tourist and foreign pensioners, or can the locals also afford to buy them.?

VP said he "may be rich", so perhaps he has no problems affording them, but how about the less unfortunate.

I'm just asking.

Your visit to the TRNC will be an eye opener for you Kikapu, it will help you erase the misconceptions you have about the "regime" type living and the TCs in general.

VP,

I'm just asking, if there are no direct imports into the "TRNC" from outside world, does that not mean, all foreign products must be coming in from Turkey or the RoC. Also, are you telling me, an average TC can afford most of these products, due to their income or what.

If this is not correct, then I apologize.

Products can be imported direct to the TRNC if there is a shippng link eg UK otherwise containers are shipped via Turkey, and just like in all countries some buy brand names and some buy other products according to their budgets. The TRNC distributor of BMW received and award for selling the most BMWs in the middle east, that must tell you something. I get the impression you will be in for a shock when you visit the north and see exactly how the average TC lives, now the trend is flat screen TVs...everyone has to have one.

That's good news VP, that the TC's are having a good quality of life in the "TRNC", so I guess the "level playing field" has now been achieved, so the next thing to do now, is to form the Unification, as per "your call", don't you think.?

[paaul12]

Having been visiting the TRNC for a number of years now, every time I visit I can see a huge deference to the standards of living, this is probably most prevalent when you see all the latest cars everywhere is driving around in, and the number of very exclusive shops that are opening up everywhere.

I luv it when I am out there and am able to get away from all this crap from the Greek side, when you are in the TRNC people just get on with their lives, unlike down south where they spend every minute of every day looking for ways to fcuk up the people of the TRNC which they will NEVER ever succeed in.

And don’t forget the 259 million euros from the EU will help to raise the peoples living standards higher, the people of the TRNC have been suffering for a very long time now, finally things are starting to change, it wont happen overnight, but at last things are moving in the right direction, much to your (Greek Cyprus) efforts to keep the people in isolation.

[pitsilos]

The world's brand names are here, and RoC can't threaten Coca Cola, Ford, Nokia etc.

@ Observer,

I'm sure you can get anything in the "TRNC" as anyone else, but is that not because almost all foreign brands have to go through Turkey first. So, in another words, anything sold in the "TRNC" is basically "second hand", and perhaps even more expensive than, the same items bought in Turkey, because of the "middle men", and I did mean "men" as in plural.

So, who are buying these products. Is it purely for tourist and foreign pensioners, or can the locals also afford to buy them.?

VP said he "may be rich", so perhaps he has no problems affording them, but how about the less unfortunate.

I'm just asking.

Your visit to the TRNC will be an eye opener for you Kikapu, it will help you erase the misconceptions you have about the "regime" type living and the TCs in general.

VP,

I'm just asking, if there are no direct imports into the "TRNC" from outside world, does that not mean, all foreign products must be coming in from Turkey or the RoC. Also, are you telling me, an average TC can afford most of these products, due to their income or what.

If this is not correct, then I apologize.

Products can be imported direct to the TRNC if there is a shippng link eg UK otherwise containers are shipped via Turkey, and just like in all countries some buy brand names and some buy other products according to their budgets. The TRNC distributor of BMW received and award for selling the most BMWs in the middle east, that must tell you something. I get the impression you will be in for a shock when you visit the north and see exactly how the average TC lives, now the trend is flat screen TVs...everyone has to have one.

That's good news VP, that the TC's are having a good quality of life in the "TRNC", so I guess the "level playing field" has now been achieved, so the next thing to do now, is to form the Unification, as per "your call", don't you think.?

nice one, you old fox, watch the weasel slime out of this one kikapu

[Kikapu]

nice one, you old fox, watch the weasel slime out of this one kikapu

Pitsilos,

I still think, you owe VP an apology, on your other post.

It is the right thing to do.

[pitsilos]

kikapu, i appreciate your advice, and it kills me to say this to you, but the point is you must have respect for someone in order to apologise.

the question is, have the vips, plural, earned respect here in this forum from anyone in order to get an apology? no

the arrogance in their posts is here for everyone to see. they are a tag team, they probably have an individual vip for everyone of us and this is obvious with their 22 hr marathon postings. trying to fool people does not warrant respect but what it does warrant is contempt, for trying to make fools out of us.

typical words from he vips, plural
turk hater
partition
in the long run we will get recognition
"roc"
south cyprus
all of the above are signs of no respect

if i was really out of order i would be the first to apologise with out been told to do so.
sorry mate but i really can't bring myself to give a@@holes apologies.

ps...if you really, really want me to apologise i will do it kikapu because i have respect for you and miltiades. its the old cypriot thing i guess

[Kikapu]

Pitsilos,

The apology is for insulting VP's wife. As I said, we do not want to involve forum members family members into our insults. If that was the case, someone will do it to you and me and others. We can insult each other now and again and get the same back, and we move on, when we act more civilized, but insulting those family members indirectly, who does not take part in our conversations, just to get to the forum member we are trying to insult or hurt, is totally unacceptable.

Enough said.