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[erolz]

That said, I already stated that a true strong federation is acceptable, and also transitional periods will be needed since things can not happen from one day to the next.

Your idea about federation is that TC will have a geographical area for a period of time - but NO political equality. That is NOT a federation - that is a 'ghetto'. Federation _requires_ a degree of political equality of the states that make up the federation to be a federation. You insist that you accept a federation whilst at the same time insisting there can be no political equality between TC and GC 'states'! This inistance is not 'forgetting the past' - it is exactly the same insistance that led to GC killing TC and to TC having to resist and ultimately for Turkey having to come and save TC from such GC fanatical objectives. Politicaly you are NO different from those GC that led Cyprus to disater in the past. Your objectives are exactly the same as the extremist GC objectives were back then.

[Othellos]

Will you stop calling theives TC living in former GC properties and who have lost properties in the south (almost always of equal or greater value) which are now being lived in by GC (or have been demolished or left to rot).

Erolz,
May I ask on what information you base the above statement regarding the value of GC properties in the occupied areas Vs TC properties in the free areas?

O.

[erolz]

Erolz,
May I ask on what information you base the above statement regarding the value of GC properties in the occupied areas Vs TC properties in the free areas?

O.

I base it on what I have been told by those that recieved properties in exachange for properties lost in the south, both in this forum and elsewhere.

The point I was making is that Piratis insists on making the racist statement that all TC are theives. He makes no distinction between TC living in former GC properties who recieved these in exchange for properties in the south. He just lables all TC theives and uses this as his explaination for why there is division in Cyprus today. This is what I am trying to highlight here. If you take objection to me saying / implying that most TC that recived properties in exchange for lost properties in the south did not get 'more' than they lost - then I accept this view of mine is not based on hard facts but on my view / impression. Maybe it si a wrong view. I can accept that. I do not however want to get sidetracked on such a minor point in this thread. I want to continue to make clear Piratis's blatant racist attiutdes.

[Othellos]

If you take objection to me saying / implying that most TC that recived properties in exchange for lost properties in the south did not get 'more' than they lost - then I accept this view of mine is not based on hard facts but on my view / impression. Maybe it si a wrong view. I can accept that. I do not however want to get sidetracked on such a minor point in this thread. I want to continue to make clear Piratis's blatant racist attiutdes.

Thank you for you reply, erolz. I just cannot see the point of making such definite statements (like the one you made earlier about GC Vs TC properties), when these are not supported by some kind of evidence.

O.

[erolz]

Thank you for you reply, erolz. I just cannot see the point of making such definite statements (like the one you made earlier about GC Vs TC properties), when these are not supported by some kind of evidence.

O.

No you are right - I will try and avoid such in the future. Will you be 'picking up' other (GC) posters who make similar unsupported claims? Or those that make openly and blatantly racist claims?

[Othellos]

No you are right - I will try and avoid such in the future. Will you be 'picking up' other (GC) posters who make similar unsupported claims? Or those that make openly and blatantly racist claims?

I do not know why or how you got this impression about me "targetting" you specifically. All I did was to ask a simple (and imho reasonable) question. Other than that I am not interested (and it is not my job) to "police" this forum.

Don't be so touchy

O.

[erolz]

No you are right - I will try and avoid such in the future. Will you be 'picking up' other (GC) posters who make similar unsupported claims? Or those that make openly and blatantly racist claims?

I do not know why or how you got this impression about me "targetting" you specifically. All I did was to ask a simple (and imho reasonable) question. Other than that I am not interested (and it is not my job) to "police" this forum.

Don't be so touchy

O.

I am not saying you are targeting me. I am suggesting that perhaps you are being a little inconsistant?

[Othellos]

I am not saying you are targeting me. I am suggesting that perhaps you are being a little inconsistant?

That is like saying the same thing, erolz.

O.

[erolz]

I am not saying you are targeting me. I am suggesting that perhaps you are being a little inconsistant?

That is like saying the same thing, erolz.

O.

Maybe. The difference to me is that targeting me would imply that its something personal, whereas picking up TC on their statements not backed by hard documentary evidence but not any GC, was I suggested inconsistant. So one is about targetin me (which I do not feel you were) and the other is about targeting TC (on a prticular point) and not GC (which I feel that maybe you are). Anyway not a very important disctinction in the general scheme of things. Also something that we are all guilty of to some degree as well.

[Piratis]

I want to continue to make clear Piratis's blatant racist attiutdes.

Ok, thief, you can continue to do so, see if i give a shit

If not liking/hating people that are criminals makes me a racist, then let it be so. Guilty as charged!

As I said in anther post though, you should judge your racist views before you judge others. You insist to split people along racist lines, to give people different kind of rights based on race. If I am a racist of words, you are a racist of actions, and that dear thief is much worst.