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[Piratis]

Who should have a right to label them as traitors and facists for expressing their opinion?

If their opinion is that something should be forced on Greek Cypriots against their democratically expressed will and they actively help the foreigners in order to achieve this it is ok? With the same logic supporting the coup was ok also.

[Piratis]

Piratis can you kindly answer my question with openess, can you not see that while you have Mr Papadop as leader we will never have a solution??? TCs will not say YES to anything he participates in as they view him as being a TC hater and have no tollerance for him or anything he does just like you hated and loathed Denktas, even worse for some TCs.

We changed 5 presidents since the invasion. TCs will not say yes to anything that is not partition or disguised partition. It has nothing to do with who the president is. Do you disagree? If you do, then personally I have no problem for Papadopoulos to be replaced. However don't expect that we will elect as a president somebody that will agree for disguised partition, so you will dislike him as much as you dislike Papadopoulos.

[erolz]

Who should have a right to label them as traitors and facists for expressing their opinion?

If their opinion is that something should be forced on Greek Cypriots against their democratically expressed will and they actively help the foreigners in order to achieve this it is ok? With the same logic supporting the coup was ok also.

I asked that if they believe that the vote on the annan plan was not a true reflection of the GC majority will because it was not made in an atmosphere of informed choice but in one of extreme rehtoric and misleading of public opinion by organs of the state - and they say so in public - then are such people in your opinion traitiors and facists seeking to thwart the democratic will of GC or just people that hold a different view of events that you do?

[Viewpoint]

Piratis I personally and many TCs would have preferred any of your other leaders as opposed to Mr Papadop as he does nothing to build a positive bridge between himself and TCs, his negative and arrogant stance may come accross to your people as being protective of your rights but to us he is a man we would not trust our dog to.

[Piratis]

if they believe that the vote on the annan plan was not a true reflection of the GC majority will because it was not made in an atmosphere of informed choice but in one of extreme rehtoric and misleading of public opinion by organs of the state - and they say so in public - then are such people in your opinion traitiors and facists seeking to thwart the democratic will of GC or just people that hold a different view of events that you do?

If we start with such excuses then coups, dictatorships etc will all be excused because somebody will claim that the voters were misled and what he does is the right thing. Actually this the excused given very often when coups happen.
We have democracy and this is how it works. They can say that they disagree, but they can not work against the democratically expressed will of the people. They can express their views and if the people votes for them in next elections then they can put into action their beliefs. Now they should accept that the great majority rejected the Annan plan, and they should stop trying to help the foreigners to force it on us against our will.

[Piratis]

Piratis I personally and many TCs would have preferred any of your other leaders as opposed to Mr Papadop as he does nothing to build a positive bridge between himself and TCs, his negative and arrogant stance may come accross to your people as being protective of your rights but to us he is a man we would not trust our dog to.

We don't want your dog What we want is our land and our human and legal rights back. Would you give these back to us if the president was somebody else?

[gabaston]

VP

sorry mate but i luv him.

I reckon President Paps is tc's greatest asset.

he is a shining example of what tc's are trying to free themselves of.

just picturing him in private talks with Bush Blair Annan or any other leader brings joy to my heart.

what a wonderful way of promoting tc's concerns.

he's a one in a million gem.

[KYPROS-EINAI-ELLHNIKH]

VP

sorry mate but i luv him.

I reckon President Paps is tc's greatest asset.

he is a shining example of what tc's are trying to free themselves of.

just picturing him in private talks with Bush Blair Annan or any other leader brings joy to my heart.

what a wonderful way of promoting tc's concerns.

he's a one in a million gem.

Explain to me who is going to side with you? Certainly not EU, after the results in France and elsewhere, and people polling they felt they were deatched from EU and disliked not being talked to about Turkish entry, now Europe is gradually turning it's guns towards Turkey. First Austria, then France, next Germany when Schroeder is thrown out (which is an inveitably), and then all the smaller EU states..... If no European country in the EU (which is gradually expanding) accepts you, then no other power bloc will as well. You are clinging to some wierd kind of false hope that will NEVER materialize.

[Viewpoint]

Piratis I personally and many TCs would have preferred any of your other leaders as opposed to Mr Papadop as he does nothing to build a positive bridge between himself and TCs, his negative and arrogant stance may come accross to your people as being protective of your rights but to us he is a man we would not trust our dog to.

We don't want your dog What we want is our land and our human and legal rights back. Would you give these back to us if the president was somebody else?

If he was positive had a clear vision to unite/divide and addressed our concerns as well as his own peoples then I would even vote for him but with Papadop and his attitude rather leave it for another what is it 8 years??? No Solution for another 8 years Im sure we can wait that long and see what develops in the North.

[gabaston]

no one has ever sided with us.

the world is only just begining to see things differently.

annan was a massive wake up for millions. And now following in its wake His Excellency..........