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War Crimes Tribunal for T.Papadopoulos

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Who believes Tassos Papadopoulos should be brought to the war crimes tribunal?

YES
18
64%
NO
10
36%
MAYBE
0
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Postby Piratis » Fri Jan 07, 2005 2:48 am

you`ve obviously never read anything about the Tonyukok inscriptions in Central Mongolia, or the Bilge Kagan inscriptions?


No, how many non Turks do you think they know about them? What were this inscriptions about?

It was never the Hellens who came to Cyprus, it was the Minoanians who did NOT identify themselves as Greek


I am afraid you confuse Minoans, the ancient civilization of Crete that was not a Greek civilization, with Mycenaean Greeks ( http://www.portergaud.edu/cmcarver/myce.html )

Mycenaeans came to Cyprus centuries before Troy. As for Troy itself the story is somewhere between reality and myth, so it is very interesting that you managed to come to all those conclusions without any evidence. Thats what they teach you at your schools?
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Postby boulio » Fri Jan 07, 2005 2:49 am

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Postby Piratis » Fri Jan 07, 2005 2:55 am

alexander was a macedonian who were and still are slavs. Macedonia the state is a slavic country.


Well, we have a village in Cyprus that is named "North Pole". The connection between Alexander and Slavs is as close as is the connection between this Cyprus village and Polar bears.
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Postby KELEBEK » Fri Jan 07, 2005 3:07 am

Minoans, Minecians Minoanesians whatever!

The bottom line is your ancesters were never Greeks, they were Anatolians from the dusty interior of Asia-Minor, who lived in caves, broke stones together wandering what they were, and spent their time eating pistachio nuts and growing hoggishly fat. Cannibals who fought over food with other and then fought the Persians and other peoples. Doesn`t sound so impressive now!


What were the inscriptions? They were about the structure of early Turkic society, the hierarchy of power, chronology, astrology, history and philosophy. Those spoke of religion and the whats right and wrong. They spoke of wars and famine. They offer useful information as to how nomadic society worked and functioned. Its not as simple as a guy like you would think.

But as usual the West tends to over-emphasize the importance of early civilization in the Greece and Rome. They tend to ignore the East completely. This is a form of arrogance that Europeans are noted for, that you just reminded me of.
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Postby boulio » Fri Jan 07, 2005 3:08 am

take a deep breath and just relax,everything will be okay in the morning. :P
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Postby erolz » Fri Jan 07, 2005 3:57 am

Piratis wrote:

When the Hellens were creating civilization in Cyprus and Asia Minor, the Turks were still living in caves eating roots somewhere near Mongolia.

Then at some point the Turks decided to move in our area and do the ONLY thing they know: kill, rape and steal what others created.


So we get down to it do we not.

The GC community should have total control of Cyprus because they are desended from the 'creators of civilization' and the TC should just do what they are told because they are desended from 'barbarians' that only know how to kill, rape and steal.

Your hatred for Turks (and by extension TC - especially if they do not do what they are told to do by GC) is palpable. If you said in the UK that all africans / jews / welsh / french know how to do is kill, rape and steal you would be liable for prosecution under the incitement to racial hatred laws there. Of course you are not racist - you can not be - because you have said so yourself! You do not want to promote hatered and divison - because you have said so yourself and accused others of doing on several occasions.

Pathetic. Turks are all killers rapist and thieves. TC are thieves. You are not racist. I would not like to meet someone you did consider racist!

from dictionary.com

Racsim

1. The belief that race accounts for differences in human character or ability and that a particular race is superior to others.

2. Discrimination or prejudice based on race.

You are a racist - as defined by dictionary.com. Actualy you have forced me to realise that I have been to lenient on you - because you are a GC and because this forum is supposed to be about 'finding common ground'. The fact is if you expressed such racist views in any other context and about any other race then I would be obliged (on the basis that for evil to flourish all it takes is for good people to do nothing) to point out in no uncertain terms that you are a racist bigot. As far as I amconcerned you have a kind of disease of the mind - you are in my view quite literaly sick.

Lectures in human rights and what they mean from a racist! Now I have it clear and plain in my head it places a context and perspective from which to view any of your comments about the Cyprus problem and possible solutions that you might make. Quite simply your views are the views of an unashamed racist.
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Postby mehmet » Fri Jan 07, 2005 10:38 am

I wouldn't say it would be in the interests of reconciliation to string anyone up by the balls. By the way I'm no fan of Papadopoulos either. For me a war criminal is someone who is directly implicated in the unlawful killing of people. I'm not sure Papadopoulos counts as such unless there is any evidence directly linking him with a command structure which sanctioned the murder of opponents. Of course the only evidence there might be may come from others whoi are directly responsible themselves so we may never know.
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Postby brother » Fri Jan 07, 2005 10:53 am

Piratis is that not where the term, "beware of greeks bearing gifts" comes from, the real instigators of barbarism/genocide are trying to put the label on someone else's table.
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Postby Piratis » Fri Jan 07, 2005 1:03 pm

Erolz and co, first come here to accuse us that we "started it first" and then when I state the facts they accuse as of racism.

Is it racism to state the facts of history? If history is not favorable to you and you would prefer to forget about it, I have no problem. But in this case don't go in the past to tell us "who started it first", because the answer to this is very easy to be given and your only way out after is just empty accusations. (since you can not deny the facts of history)

Who are racists are the ones that want to apply in Cyprus something racist that will discriminate on people depending on what race they are. Who is asking for such thing Erolz, me or you?
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Postby brother » Fri Jan 07, 2005 1:10 pm

You are the one having a problem accepting the past crimes commited by your society, and then trying to turn this into a fictional issue.
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