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[Piratis]

You see while there is restrictions by turkey to your freedom in the north the south is no better as it has restrictions on the tc too, so both sides at the moment are no better than the other.

Maybe, but do you support such restrictions? All restrictions should be lifted. Who stops this from happening is Turkey, not RoC.

[insan]

Now for example we all know that Bush is the wrong president for the US. Does this mean that the people that didn't support Bush (about 49%) have the right to go against the will of the majority and bring Bush down? The answer is "no".

The differnce and fact about Cyprus is that there are two peoples(TC and GC community) entitled to the same rights. Until now, there has nothing done by Hellen's ruling elite in order to make TCs feel that we were one people in Cyprus. To the contrary, they have done everything possible to totally exterminate TC's from Cyprus. And nothing has changed for them. Even becoming a member of EU is a part of their extermination plan. So Piratis, don't tell us our childhood farey tales. Go get marry, have child and tell her/him these old fashined childish faery tales.

[brother]

The ROC stops it too, now for one minute imagine if the ROC restored the tc rights, now that would help you beat turkey as in the E.U you would be seen as the one being progressive and really trying but as is at the moment you are viewed just as bad as turkey.

[uzan]

Uzan, you are just repeating the good old Turkish propaganda.

Denctash was just a peaceful member of TMT, while Papadopoulos was a serial killer. Whatever. We've heard this crap a million times.

You are just accusing somebody without a single evidence, simply because the ones that prepare the Turkish propaganda told you to do so.

piratis you will hear this f,,,, crap because IT IS TRUE

[Piratis]

No matter how many times you say crap, they remain crap, and they will never become true.

the truth is that you label Papadopoulos without a single hard evidence.

[magikthrill]

I hate to break it to the Turkish nationalits in here but this is the Cyprus forum. If you're going to use Turkish along with English in the polls, please post Greek as well.

Thanks

[erolz]

I hate to break it to the Turkish nationalits in here but this is the Cyprus forum. If you're going to use Turkish along with English in the polls, please post Greek as well.

Thanks

Actualy we have had this issue raised before when some poster posted only in Greek. From memory the admin asked that anything not posted in english have an english translation (which was doen in this case). I do not recall anyone insiting that iof a post was made in Turkish (or greek) AND English that they also post it in the third langauge as well! That's just ridiculous in my opinion. As long as there is an english translation then it does not matter what other language is used does it? Also it's hardly a sign of Turkish (cypriot) nationlism is it? After all the poll was for turkish posters. It followed this forums 'convention' by giving an English translation as well. If you are gonna start claiming that to not put Greek as well is 'Turkish nationalism' then we are not going to get anywhere are we?

[Piratis]

After all the poll was for turkish posters.

Exactly. And this is what anybody reading the poll results should keep in mind.

[anlarm]

Papadopoulos is attacked because he is not willing to accept that Cyprus should become an undemocratic banana republic that will be a protectorate of Turkey.

If you hate Papadopoulos because of that, you can continue to do so, and throw as much mad at him as you like.

You hate Greek Cypriots because we do not accept to become second category citizens and compromise our most basic human rights so some others will benefit on our loss.

You have been doing such kind of propaganda for 30 years already. Aren't you bored of it?

I do not hate Tasos, he is not worthy of any of my feelings. You personally may have the right to defend him. Believe me no TC hates Tasos because of what you mentioned above, but because he is not sincere when he says he wants a "solution". He is no different than Denktash in that respect. I do not beliver either one of them really, honestly, sincerely wants a lasting, just, peaceful solution in Cyprus. I can understand their behaviors because both have wowed to "destroy" the other side. I just find it difficult to understand how a party like AKEL gives support to Tasos.
You are right that we do not want to become second category citizens, and if you see us as such, then I can only pity you. However, we do not hate Greek Cypriots. What we (TCs) "hate" is the EOKA mentality.

[Saint Jimmy]

Anlarm, this perception of Tassos Papadopoulos is widely held, even among a lot of GCs (well, predominantly his political opponents, which, I suppose, includes me, too). However, I think we should hold our horses with him.

AKEL may have backed him (and continues to do so) because it wanted to get to power again, after ten years, but I don't think they would've done so if they didn't believe he wants to actually solve it. They knew his past, and still, I think they really trusted him.

Plus, 52% of the population obviously did believe in him. Did he fool all of us? Well, I'd like to think that he didn't. The difference I see between him and Denktash is that Tassos, among his other arguments for favouring 'No', said that solution initiatives would not end with Annan 5, and that we would have the opportunity to negotiate a better plan in the future. He didn't burn the bridge. And, it seems he was right.

However, obviously, this is going to be his last chance... If he blows this one, too, then it's going to be obvious to everyone that he did, in fact, fool us all. And it's going to be over.