Kikapu wrote:mrfromng wrote:Turkish_Cypriot,
I'm happy to see, that you're still up and posting at this late hour.
I guess you assumed my post above was aimed at you, but no, it was aimed at mrfromng, which you were kind enough to translate his message to me, which I even thanked you for it. I do understand your reaction back towards at me, thinking I was picking on you.
The reason why I used Nasreddin Hoca, was for that exact reason of some of our Turkish peoples 15th century mind set. I believe the example given was well justified.
Just from my own family, I can tell you, that prehistoric mentality is alive and well.
I have a brother in law in London, originally from Lefke...15th Century all the way.
Ex brother in law, from Turkey, also living in London....15th Century all the way.
My own father at age 78 entered into his life at 15th Century and stayed there.
My own elder brother has advanced from all others, and now, he is in the 16th Century.
Another brother in law in Turkey, who is married to my twin sister...22nd Century all the way.
The last brother in law seems to be very unique.
So, I see on this forum, when I read some members posts, their words jump right at me, as if I can hear their voices from the 15th Century. It is as if they were scratching the blackboard with their finger nails....it is very painful to the ear. Yours was very pleasant, until the above post. I hope you will get back to being yourself again.
Looking at this its clear you come from a dis-functional family and speaks volumes for the way you turned out.
This is the 15th Century most Turks belong in, so don't think you're any better. You think of only yourself and that's it, screw anybody else. I want the best for the TC's in Cyprus, but people like you, just want to take the best, at all cost. It is your 15th century mind that does not allow you to be visionary. You just want to stay blind and dumb. You want direct flight to Cyprus, so that you can get there 1 hour faster than it takes you now. Those are your word couple of month ago. Yes, thinking of yourself again, are we not mrfromng. I'm honest with everything I write, without any hidden agendas, unlike most TC's on this board, who have financial gains to be made, without a unified Cyprus. My skin is very thick Mr, so say anything you want against my patriotism to the TC's, but I also have patriotism toward my motherland, and that is Cyprus, which you are ready to throw away at a push of a button. Yes, I can see clearly where your loyalties lie, and you have the nerve and the balls from a dick-less moron like yourself, to throw accusations my way, because you want to shorten your flight by an hour. You know what, I don't care if your fucking plane never arrives, because I rather have a better future for all the TC's who are much less off than you are.
Where is your compassion to your nation idiot.? Where is your effort to save your nation, idiot.? Where is your God given patriotism, to the land, that gave you birth, idiot.? Was it all about getting your sorry ass to your Villa in the "TRNC" an hour faster, idiot.? Do you enjoy life as normal in the "TRNC", because you can, when others, your Cypriot friends, South of the Green Line cannot get to their land and homes, and this does not bother you, idiot.? This what makes you a 15th Century mental drop-out idiot. And yes, I have one or two in my family also, so now you will not feel alone, idiot.
Kikapu,
Please grow up. Stop thinking you in the USA and GC buddies in Cyprus are the only ones, the gifted and chosen ones living in the 21st century. We, just like you are in the same century and are all enjoying the luxuries that it brings. It is for this reason alone that we demand direct flights and trade with the rest of the world.
Whilst there is talk of globalisation we the TC's are being alienated, this is as you say the 21st century and should not be the case.
How you come to the conclusion that I'm selfish and my attitude is me me me and screw the rest is puzzling to say the least. My struggle and desire is for my brothers and sisters to see better days, if this will be the result of re-unification then I'm fine with that. If it means separation and recognition of TRNC I'm fine with that too. As long as its a final, just and meaningful solution.
If you read my post about direct flights you should have noticed my biggest concern was the unnecessary landing and take off at which an aircraft is most vulnerable. So, having direct flights would be an hour shorter and will reduce accident risk. Is this too much too ask? Are we less human than our GC compatriots?
You claim to be compassionate and patriotic, how come this is questioned by every other TC member with exception of birkibrisli? If this is your idea of patriotism then it sure leaves a lot to be desired.
As for our GC friends that have lost their properties and are prevented from returning. Yes I feel for them, I sympathise with these people. But look at this from our side of the fence. Circumstances dictated that the 2 communities be separated. Since this separation the TC's, for the first time in their history feel like proper human beings, no more intimidation, no more domination and the feeling of second class citizens. They are enjoying this feeling and don't want it taken away from them. The Annan plan would have had the majority of GC's have their properties back and the choice of moving back to the north. They refused.
Now to you and BK. You are entitled to your opinions and you have your freedom of speech which nobody can take away from you. But by the same token you are expected to respect the TC's country that we all hug and love with a passion. It may be a country that we created and only recognised by Turkey but nevertheless it is our country and we are loyal to it. You may want to be represented by the RoC but 95% of TC's would be proud citizens of the TRNC and would choose it over the RoC every time.
So when you show contempt and disrespect to me, VP, Zan, Shah, Turkish_Cypriot etc etc you are showing it to the whole population of TC's.
You have not traveled back to Cyprus in 40 years. I have traveled back and forth all my life of 53 years, had I been treated like a decent citizen that I believe Iam at each visit to my home and not subjected to the treatment that I received may it be from immigration, police, traffic police, civil servants etc by my GC brothers I may have been in the same group as you and BK.
I have many Greek friends, at personal level we can get on like a house on fire but living as to separate communities, 2 groups of peoples this is nigh impossible. Us in the real world have learnt to accept this, you and BK choose not to, that's your choice but this does not give you the right to insult our nation that we have grown to love.
BTW, I could have responded to your post immediately after reading it, however I made myself a coffee and took long deep breaths to calm down before hitting the buttons on my keyboard. Next time I read such shit directed at me I will respond a lot differently , in fact it may even get me banned, you've been warned.
...and 15th century mentality? Thats rich coming from someone quoting Nasreddin Hoca. 
