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Kibrisin birlesmesini istersan tamamda, KKTCye bu gadar dusman cikman cok ayip.

The above says:

"Its OK if you want Cyprus to be unified but to act like such an enemy of the TRNC is shameful"

And it is! We're only talking about direct flights for fuck sakes. What harm would that do to any of you? After everything we've been through, after all the benefits the GC's have, what is so wrong about direct flights that he has to talk of it as though we're asking for so much.

It infuriates me that we have to beg for a privilege like direct flights to our country, and for him to come and talk as if we're not worthy of it makes me sick.

He can see how some of you try to rub shit in our faces and mock us, our people and even Ataturk at every chance you get and he has the audacity to open his mouth and criticise us about wanting direct flights!?!?!?!?

Stop talking as if Turkey intefered with Cyprus to steal your crappy houses Pyro. Turkish people can read the likes of you like an open book, all your manipulative bullshit talking like you respect Turkish Cypriots and want to be unified so we can all live happily ever after...then going on to ridicule everything about our people...then you expect Turkish people to show you respect, understanding and wonder why they would rather die than live with people like you?

Get real!

[growuptcs]

turkish_cypriot, if you get your direct flights that you ask for, do you honestly believe that we will get what we ask for from Turkey, being our stolen properties? Be real, seriously and stop moaning. We been moaning for over 33 years for something that was FORCEFULLY taken from us, and you want direct flights before our right to return? Use your head before posting one-sided needs. You sound like a child. If you still see no middle ground, then deal with it.

[miltiades]

Turkish-Cypriot wrote

"""" We're only talking about direct flights for fuck sakes. What harm would that do to any of you? After everything we've been through, after all the benefits the GC's have, what is so wrong about direct flights that he has to talk of it as though we're asking for so much. """"

But you have direct flights to your country already .The RoC is your country just as much as it is mine. Demand your rights as Cypriots not as foreigners but as Cypriots.

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Militades I understand what you mean but what am I supposed to say when most of the Greek Cypriots here just think about land and nothing more. Despite what they say its clear they don't like Turkish people in the slightest. They ridicule Turks and put them down then turn around and say they want to be unified. When they talk about the Cyprus problem they always start at 1974 and forget about what happened before like its not relevant, yet expect the Turkish Cypriots to feel sorry for them and apologise about what happened in 74.

They ignore all the problems prior to 74 and act as though Turkey came just for the purpose of taking their houses.

I posted these pics in another thread but heres to all who didn't see them before and those who think Turkish Cypriots exagerate what happened in Cyprus:





The problem was very real and Turkish Cypriots have already fallen into the trap of "we want to get along". I dont understand how people expect us to show understanding to the Greek Cypriots when they completely turn a blind eye to their own wrong doings like it was nothing and act like we have no right to complain or not trust them.

How can we sort anything out when Greek Cypriots just dont care about what happened to us, only them?

[Pyrpolizer]

@Turkish_Cypriot

First of all TRashNcan is not your country. The only agreement we ever had with you for our Country is the agreement and whatever law the RoC represents. You can have direct flights -in fact you are already having direct flights at Larnaca Airport.It only takes 30 minutes from there to go anywhere you want. The same time is needed for GCs who live in Limassol or in Nicosia

Secondly you want direct flights in TRashNcan for what? To subsidise the (against EU law) at so low rates as to flood the place with cheap tourists. To put them where? On hotels built on stolen Greek Cypriot land. To achieve what? To destroy whatever good name the GCs have created in tourism all over Europe and to destroy the high class and expensive tourism we the GCs managed to make Cyprus as a destination. Yes we made Cyprus an expensive and quality destination.
And to finally achieve what? The total distraction of our Tourist Industry, the complete sale of our stolen properties in the occupied, and the final partition.

As for your Ataturk We already established in other discussions he was nothing but a pervert, hence you were brainwashed with lies and fantasies.

I will not stop talking about Turkey and the fact that her aim from as back as the 60s was to take 37% of Cyprus. This was pre-planned and the TCs were used and put in sufferring for Turkeys ultimate, nationalistic, and expansionist cause.

From the moment BabaDenktash locked you up for 33 years ago you never cared to even think where the hell all those GCs we outsted from here are now living. Do they have food, do they have water dp they have jobs. No, you were busy exporting our stolen furniture, refrigerators jewellery you found ready in the occupied. Yes we suffered for many years we were expecting from one day to another we would return and continue our lives. No-one of you ever cared. When we couldn’t stand it anymore we were doing demonstrations at the buffer zone. You were coming there and shooting at us with real weapons, so we were getting back to our tents in despair. At some stage our women thought they would do a WOMEN ONLY demonstration, you our brothers would not be so barbarians to hurt defendless women? And what did we see? You our brothers pulling our women from the hair on the ground as if they were animals and beating them. One of those women was TITINA LOIZIDOU. Remember this name?

Slowly slowly however wiping our tears off and losing our smile and our laughter FOR EVER (Oh, how I hate coming to the occupied and see you all smiling and laughing- who the hell got our laughter away?) well we at least advanced economically. You know why? Because we were not hiding away like thieves doing nothing for 30 years waiting for a stupid TRashNcan to be recognised. We worked legally and honestly and we adsvanced.

At that peak of our advanceyour Denktash opened you the gates and you saw us and thought wow these "urumchuk" dogs got advanced because they stole uur rights in RoC. Yet we were so brave that even then we said, it’s OK we forgive you your rights are here you are welcome to take them back and give us ours back. Although it’s been too late, lets forget everything and make a good start….

But you are still so greedy and stupid you think you are going to get even more than what you had before. To those of you who think like that I have only 2 words to say: Get lost !/b]
I personally feel contempt for each and everyopne of you who thinks like that and [b] my contempt is going to sho in each and every word I spell in this forum.

Not all TCs are like that though. If All TCs were like that I would never want to unite with them. I know personally. For those who are not I feel nothing but the ultimate respect. I just consider them people like me.

[Pyrpolizer]

to TC again:

It is typical for TCs in here to only talk for the situation in the 60s and for GCs for the situation after 1974.

What's your opinion of the situation of the 60s? You think the TCs suffered just because the GCs wanted Enosis? Or they also suffered for another pre-planned reason?

[Pyrpolizer]

@Tc again

You yourself are so brainwashed you even have one of Ataturks proverbs in your signature. Would you like telling us what it says and why you put it there? I bet it has something to do against the GCs...

[T_C]

I have to go to my local ocak basi to eat some kebab so I'll get back to you properly when I get back home...but before I go...

As for your Ataturk We already established in other discussions he was nothing but a pervert, hence you were brainwashed with lies and fantasies.

LOL!

What a joke!

Just because he didn't do you any favours doesn't mean he was "nothing but a pervert". Ataturk achieved whatever he intended for Turkish people. Look at your own Makarios and what he achieved (or rather what he didn't) before you try and judge Ataturk.

In contrast to the likes of Makarios, Ataturk was MUCH MUCH MUCH MORE then what you claim him to be.





There would of even been a Hollywood film about him with Antonio Banderas playing Ataturk had it not been for Greek and Armenian peoples protests.

Ataturk was a great leader, his priority was the well being of his people, and he was LOYAL to his people. We cant thank him enough for the good he did for Turkish people.

"Ne Mutlu Turkum Diyene"

[miltiades]

Militades I understand what you mean but what am I supposed to say when most of the Greek Cypriots here just think about land and nothing more. Despite what they say its clear they don't like Turkish people in the slightest. They ridicule Turks and put them down then turn around and say they want to be unified. When they talk about the Cyprus problem they always start at 1974 and forget about what happened before like its not relevant, yet expect the Turkish Cypriots to feel sorry for them and apologise about what happened in 74.

They ignore all the problems prior to 74 and act as though Turkey came just for the purpose of taking their houses.


[The problem was very real and Turkish Cypriots have already fallen into the trap of "we want to get along". I dont understand how people expect us to show understanding to the Greek Cypriots when they completely turn a blind eye to their own wrong doings like it was nothing and act like we have no right to complain or not trust them.

How can we sort anything out when Greek Cypriots just dont care about what happened to us, only them?

My dear Turkish Cypriot compatriot. There are many many G/Cs who share my view and regard you and all the T/Cs as our compatriots , our equal partners in the land of our birth. There are many obstacles the biggest being the identity issue. No G/C will today accept the division of Cyprus and the annexation of part of Cyprus to Turkey , just as the T/Cs would not accept Enosis with Greece. I'm a passionate Cypriot
who considers the G/Cs and The T/Cs as my brothers and sisters , my compatriots , the people that took their first breath in Cyprus just as I did. The problem is this : Turkey occupies part of our country. If Greece was occupying any part of Cyprus I would say exactly the same .
We have to find a way to instill in our people the need to embrace our identity , and waving foreign flags does not help. Try interacting with other Cypriots , just as I do on a daily basis , and you will see how much we have in common.
I raise my glass and drink to you my friend , will you do the same .

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Ofcourse I would Militades anyday!!!!!!!! I have to go, ill reply properly when I get back..