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Postby pitsilos » Mon Feb 19, 2007 1:04 pm

Viewpoint wrote:
pitsilos wrote:yeah obviously :lol:


ps. your loss of intellectual capacity and personality integration never ceases to amaze me :lol:


I did not start this line of fire maybe you should direct your comment to the person who did. :wink:


I would love to, can you please tell me which vp(number) should i be directing my post to then?
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Postby Viewpoint » Mon Feb 19, 2007 3:00 pm

pitsilos wrote:
Viewpoint wrote:
pitsilos wrote:yeah obviously :lol:


ps. your loss of intellectual capacity and personality integration never ceases to amaze me :lol:


I did not start this line of fire maybe you should direct your comment to the person who did. :wink:


I would love to, can you please tell me which vp(number) should i be directing my post to then?


just send it c/o pitsilos :lol:
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Postby seleucus Nicator » Mon Feb 19, 2007 6:25 pm

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If you read my post about direct flights you should have noticed my biggest concern was the unnecessary landing and take off at which an aircraft is most vulnerable. So, having direct flights would be an hour shorter and will reduce accident risk. Is this too much too ask? Are we less human than our GC compatriots?



I cannot see your humanity to the Greek-Cypriots (the enclaved) still remain in the occupied north (404 of them in total), and their fundamental human rights are consistently violated.
The main problem of Cypriot is the iron curtain that was established in Cyprus by the Turkish junta of Ancara.An iron curtain (before Turkey decide to become member of E.U.) was totally closed.Now because Turkey wants to become member of E.U. and must recognize ROC , wants an indirect recognition for his district in northern Cyprus.
No my friend this not going to happen because is not related with humanity but with brutality (that represent the militarist of Ancara).
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Postby MR-from-NG » Mon Feb 19, 2007 6:51 pm

I cannot see your humanity to the Greek-Cypriots (the enclaved) still remain in the occupied north (404 of them in total), and their fundamental human rights are consistently violated.


They are not there at gun-point, nor are they chained and forced to stay. If I'm not happy in any place I just pack up and leave, like in 63 when we were attacked and tried to be ethnically cleansed by our good neighbours the GCs, we just packed up and left.

These 404 people must be happy since they are choosing to stay.
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Postby Alexis » Mon Feb 19, 2007 7:20 pm

They are not there at gun-point, nor are they chained and forced to stay. If I'm not happy in any place I just pack up and leave, like in 63 when we were attacked and tried to be ethnically cleansed by our good neighbours the TCs, we just packed up and left.

These 404 people must be happy since they are choosing to stay.


So does that mean all the TC that chose to stay in Cyprus post 1963 were happy?
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Postby MR-from-NG » Mon Feb 19, 2007 7:32 pm

So does that mean all the TC that chose to stay in Cyprus post 1963 were happy?


Not necessarily, those that had the means would have packed up and left. Some would have had the means but chose to stay anyway and the vast majority stayed but not by choice.

The 404 people in question could just walk across to the south if they so wished. A bit different to the 63 scenario I would guess.
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Postby Pyrpolizer » Mon Feb 19, 2007 7:42 pm

Viewpoint wrote: Do you remember the above quote?
this guy doesnt seem to agree with you...


He doesn’t agree with me on what? Are you sure this guy and me are talking for the same thing?
For your information this guy is talking for chartered flights in the RoC controlled areas and what effect those flights would have on the tourism in the free areas.
I was talking of what effects the direct flights would have on tourism in the occupied areas, what effect that would have on the stolen GC properties, and what negative effect that would have on tourism in the free areas.
In other words we are talking for 2 different issues.
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Postby seleucus Nicator » Mon Feb 19, 2007 9:55 pm

mrfromng wrote:
I cannot see your humanity to the Greek-Cypriots (the enclaved) still remain in the occupied north (404 of them in total), and their fundamental human rights are consistently violated.


They are not there at gun-point, nor are they chained and forced to stay. If I'm not happy in any place I just pack up and leave, like in 63 when we were attacked and tried to be ethnically cleansed by our good neighbours the GCs, we just packed up and left.

These 404 people must be happy since they are choosing to stay.

In your post you spoke about humanity now humanity disappeared if the Gcs do like they can stay if they dont go away ,normal thinks !!!
The problem is that the most from the Turks don't have their personal opinion they repeat and support everything announced by the military regime of Ancara.
If for example the Greek government (i m a Greek not a Gc) warning his neighbors with war (like Turkey did with Egypt Lebanon and Cyprus) i would be surely against this decision and i don't feel traitor in the contrary i feel that these people are traitors with this decision.

This mentality that you express now is the common mentality in Turkey .Everybody is not happy with situation in Turkey , pack up and .. go away (specially the kurds).Human rights must be everywhere protected .The Greeks learned their lesson and nationalism is expelled from the political life of the country.
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Postby MR-from-NG » Mon Feb 19, 2007 10:19 pm

The 404 people in question could just walk across to the south if they so wished. A bit different to the 63 scenario I would guess.


Sorry, but there is a big difference in the English language between "go away" and "leave if they so wish".

And in any case you can only accommodate so much after that is becomes a case of "take it or leave it"
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Postby Pyrpolizer » Mon Feb 19, 2007 10:31 pm

Let's take things from the begining. The enclaved GCs in Karpasia were 14,000. Now there are only 400 (are you sure I think they are only 220?)

By the minute a child was becoming 12 he had no option but to go to the free areas for education. After that child dared "leave" the paradise he/she was never allowed to return. So most parents had to "leave" the paradise as well to be together with their children. After they left they were not allowed to return either.Besides their homes and lands were immediately grabbed by settlers.

So mrfromng is this what you were trying to say by "leave if they so wish" ???
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