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Kikapu Posted :
"""I belong to 100% of Cyprus, """"

And so do I , AND SO DOES EVERY CYPRIOT INCLUDING VP !!!

The RoC has nothing to do with me its a GC state run by GCs for GCs and there does not represent me in anyway shape or form.

I belong and love the Turkish Republic of Northern Cyprus, its home even with all its faults....

If it is home to you why is it not the home of the 200 thousand of Cypriots who were forced out at gun point. Do you not think that they have a legitimate right to their country, should they just forget it and , recognise the occupied part as Turkish , and by this I mean Turkish , Not T/C .
You are a divisionist , you are utterly absorbed by your paymasters and have lost all Cypriot Turkish identity.

I have always stated that refugees should get their property rights back, the property commission has been set up for this purpose, feel free to apply who knows within a few months you may get your property back or compensation but of course you run the risk of going against the GC national policy and being labelled a traitor.

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@Issy 1956

You are missing the whole point. When I talk about RoC I don't speak about who runs it, I don't speak for its president, I don't even speak for who lives in the RoC controlled areas....
I speak for whatever law/constitution makes that thing called RoC. That law is there from the 1960 the constitution HAS NEVER CHANGED ONE IOTA, and all your rights are in there.

So there are only 2 options left. The TC people now live in the northern area. THAT AREA needs administration. For that administration to be legal, and enable the GCs to help the TCs, then its law must either be the only agreed law so far, i.e the 1960 law or the EU law.

And i repeat once again, If me as a GC would be totally free to make a law governing myself the RoC law is not something that I would keep on having. It would be something else.

So in short ehat you are saying is disolve the TRNC and return to the 1960 consitution which you claim to have been forced to sign and tried to change with the 13 point of Akritas and caused us to be where we are today? what make you think that we are stupid enough to repeat such a mistake a second time.

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Btw think what the final solution will some day be, as Turkey cranches one chapter after the other towards her way to the EU.

I tell you what it will be. The EU will enforce it's own law in the northern areas...

Remember me.

How? they cant do shit without our say so.

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The EU will enforce it's own law in the northern areas...

Pyro can you elaborate? Im not good with politics what do you mean by this?

Well the way I see it is that slowly slowly the EU will take over the currently occupied areas. First with economic measures and when the right time comes (Turkeys EU accession) the EU will demand the application of the EU law in the northern area. No ifs, no buts...

How exactly you are being very vague...as long as we do not become depent on them economically which without direct trade is near on impossible then when they over step the mark and try and impose anything we will tell them where they can go. Even today the poll revealed that the EU is the least trusted body, no one here in the north takes them seriously, due to lack of credibility towards TCs.

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The EU will enforce it's own law in the northern areas...

Pyro can you elaborate? Im not good with politics what do you mean by this?

Well the way I see it is that slowly slowly the EU will take over the currently occupied areas. First with economic measures and when the right time comes (Turkeys EU accession) the EU will demand the application of the EU law in the northern area. No ifs, no buts...

How exactly you are being very vague...as long as we do not become depent on them economically which without direct trade is near on impossible then when they over step the mark and try and impose anything we will tell them where they can go. Even today the poll revealed that the EU is the least trusted body, no one here in the north takes them seriously, due to lack of credibility towards TCs.

Btw think what the final solution will some day be, as Turkey cranches one chapter after the other towards her way to the EU.

it was a responce to this that you somehow blinked and missed while reading viiiiiiiips

by that time my belief it will be all over, turkey would be a different country and that will triclke down the line.

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if turkey remains on track the cyprus problem will be a european solution. something paps is proposing

this is why the roc will never veto turkey

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The EU will enforce it's own law in the northern areas...

Pyro can you elaborate? Im not good with politics what do you mean by this?

Well the way I see it is that slowly slowly the EU will take over the currently occupied areas. First with economic measures and when the right time comes (Turkeys EU accession) the EU will demand the application of the EU law in the northern area. No ifs, no buts...

How exactly you are being very vague...as long as we do not become depent on them economically which without direct trade is near on impossible then when they over step the mark and try and impose anything we will tell them where they can go. Even today the poll revealed that the EU is the least trusted body, no one here in the north takes them seriously, due to lack of credibility towards TCs.

Btw think what the final solution will some day be, as Turkey cranches one chapter after the other towards her way to the EU.

it was a responce to this that you somehow blinked and missed while reading viiiiiiiips

by that time my belief it will be all over, turkey would be a different country and that will triclke down the line.

Not making much sense again pits....

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vips, if turkey remains on track turkey itself will go through changes with harmonizing laws with the eu.

the echr gave us a taste of what some of these laws are.

if turkey accepts the harmonzation laws from the eu, she will have to implement them, and in return they will trickle down on you to which you will have no choice but to accept, if turkey already accepted them.

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this is what pyro is talking about

as it has shown turkey is commited to the eu till the end. even if she doesn't get in for what ever reason, and its not the point here, she will be a different country. coz you can't reach the end without changes.

and we should start seeing changes within the next 10 years.

as pyro is saying the only roads we are gonna go down is the 1960 agreements or an eu solution, to which the tcs will become a minority with less rights than the 1960 agreements.

if there were no elections in turkey this year, strides would have been made towards a solution today and the need for freezing chapters would have been nil.

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I have always stated that refugees should get their property rights back, the property commission has been set up for this purpose, feel free to apply who knows within a few months you may get your property back or compensation but of course you run the risk of going against the GC national policy and being labelled a traitor

This is the core of the illegal faschist and ethnic cleansing law of TRashNcan.
I acknowledge no one the right to decide on what I should do with my land and my property, and specifically I don’t recognise the right of any idiots who call themselves a committee to decide for me.

So in short ehat you are saying is disolve the TRNC and return to the 1960 consitution which you claim to have been forced to sign and tried to change with the 13 point of Akritas and caused us to be where we are today? what make you think that we are stupid enough to repeat such a mistake a second time.

I don’t agree with even one iota of what you said. The so called "trnc" is an administration. I even said I can accept the necessity of the TCs to have an administration. As for the rest of what this administration should be refer to my previous posts.
As for the events of the 60sand what drove you to the situation you and US are today, I again feel pitty for you for not been able to understand the 2 reasons behind all this mess. You are only able to see the effects and you think those effects were ONLY due to 1 of the 2 reasons. You cnnot even see the scope for taksim is still on your and Turkish agenda and requires you to suffer even more and blame the GCs for this suffering

How exactly you are being very vague...as long as we do not become depent on them economically which without direct trade is near on impossible then when they over step the mark and try and impose anything we will tell them where they can go. Even today the poll revealed that the EU is the least trusted body, no one here in the north takes them seriously, due to lack of credibility towards TCs.

Trusting the EU is irrelevant. You can tell the EU to go anywhere you like. Without the EU you cannot survive. Remember Turkey will be in the EU and you will be a floating feather in the wind.