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74% of the TRNC are Indigenous Turkish Cypriots

How can we solve it? (keep it civilized)

Postby Pyrpolizer » Sun Feb 18, 2007 1:31 am

So lets see: You passed us your folkoric music.Your folkloric dances. Your folkloric songs. Your vocabulary like "hasiktir re pushti".
And you tell me you were the ones who got assimilated????
My answer to all these was included above. :wink:
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Postby BirKibrisli » Sun Feb 18, 2007 2:06 pm

The scaremongering perpetuated by the various Viewpoints know no bounds,I see.But it is getting rather boring.Anybody slightly familiar with Sociology 101 would tell you that 120,000 people living with 75 million others who speak the same language and have the same religion as them have no chance of maintaining their national identity. Same 101 subject would tell you that,the same 120,000 people living with 800,000 others with a different language and religion has every chance of maintaining their national identity,especially if it is almost the same as those 800,000.

The arguments eminating from the TRNC Information Office via various Viewpoints are politically designed to justify the cultural genocide of a whole community to serve the interests of their "mother"... :(
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Postby Viewpoint » Sun Feb 18, 2007 3:37 pm

Birkibrisli wrote:The scaremongering perpetuated by the various Viewpoints know no bounds,I see.But it is getting rather boring.Anybody slightly familiar with Sociology 101 would tell you that 120,000 people living with 75 million others who speak the same language and have the same religion as them have no chance of maintaining their national identity. Same 101 subject would tell you that,the same 120,000 people living with 800,000 others with a different language and religion has every chance of maintaining their national identity,especially if it is almost the same as those 800,000.

The arguments eminating from the TRNC Information Office via various Viewpoints are politically designed to justify the cultural genocide of a whole community to serve the interests of their "mother"... :(


What you are having problems accepting or grasping is that one is not really assimilation but a return to our origins, which as much as you want to deny is and will always be Turkish, the alternative is a Greek based backround which the majority of TCs reject. You have obviously been assimilated over the years and your Turkish Cypriot line stop at you so what have you done for the Turkish Cypriot people, you have no right to preach to those of us who have done everything we can to continue our TC line by maintaining and perserving our Turkishness which is the base for all Turkish Cypriots. You will say what about your Cypriotism well thats my adaptation of Turkish culture to my own environment which is the TRNC, that makes me original and different, a proud Turkish Cypriot.
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Postby Pyrpolizer » Sun Feb 18, 2007 6:52 pm

I am a Greek Cypriot myself but I don't see my roots in Greece. In fact every GC who I know of living in Greece becomes a psychological wreckage due to inability to adapt, and is full of inferiority complexes.As for those who got married the situation is really tragic...

Now how on earth you VP seem to so much like the mainland Turks, when I know for sure you have exactly the same differences like we have with the mainland greeks, is beyond my comprehension.
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Postby Viewpoint » Sun Feb 18, 2007 11:35 pm

Pyrpolizer wrote:I am a Greek Cypriot myself but I don't see my roots in Greece. In fact every GC who I know of living in Greece becomes a psychological wreckage due to inability to adapt, and is full of inferiority complexes.As for those who got married the situation is really tragic...

Now how on earth you VP seem to so much like the mainland Turks, when I know for sure you have exactly the same differences like we have with the mainland greeks, is beyond my comprehension.


Your essence is Greek like it or not.....the differnce is you deny yours and I dont, I accept it and feel proud of it, adapting it to my own country which is the TRNC.
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Postby humanist » Mon Feb 19, 2007 12:04 am

[quote]"Your essence is Greek like it or not.....the differnce is you deny yours and I dont, I accept it and feel proud of it, adapting it to my own country which is the TRNC".[quote]


Like hell my essence is Greek. The only Difference is I have a sense of self and I do not a cultural identity because I have moved along my personal and spoiritual path to accept that I speak Greek and that is the only difference between myself an a Turksih Cypriot who happens to speak Turkis or else I am a Turkish Cypriot at heart who can only speak English and Greek. Thank God I have experienced living with greek to know that I have nothng in common with them other than language and religion and even the rituals within religion are vast and different as they are in Greece itself. The country called the trnc is not a country it is a territory of Cyprus currently under Turksih Cypriot/ Turksih occupation. A pice of land that is not recognised by the international community as a country is not a country, last time I watched the news I had seen a picture of Cyprus in its entity.
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Postby Viewpoint » Mon Feb 19, 2007 12:07 am

humanist wrote:
"Your essence is Greek like it or not.....the differnce is you deny yours and I dont, I accept it and feel proud of it, adapting it to my own country which is the TRNC".

Like hell my essence is Greek. The only Difference is I have a sense of self and I do not a cultural identity because I have moved along my personal and spoiritual path to accept that I speak Greek and that is the only difference between myself an a Turksih Cypriot who happens to speak Turkis or else I am a Turkish Cypriot at heart who can only speak English and Greek. Thank God I have experienced living with greek to know that I have nothng in common with them other than language and religion and even the rituals within religion are vast and different as they are in Greece itself. The country called the trnc is not a country it is a territory of Cyprus currently under Turksih Cypriot/ Turksih occupation. A pice of land that is not recognised by the international community as a country is not a country, last time I watched the news I had seen a picture of Cyprus in its entity.


Thought you had decided not to converse with me? and I said I respect your decision.
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Postby pitsilos » Mon Feb 19, 2007 12:33 am

Viewpoint wrote:
humanist wrote:
"Your essence is Greek like it or not.....the differnce is you deny yours and I dont, I accept it and feel proud of it, adapting it to my own country which is the TRNC".

Like hell my essence is Greek. The only Difference is I have a sense of self and I do not a cultural identity because I have moved along my personal and spoiritual path to accept that I speak Greek and that is the only difference between myself an a Turksih Cypriot who happens to speak Turkis or else I am a Turkish Cypriot at heart who can only speak English and Greek. Thank God I have experienced living with greek to know that I have nothng in common with them other than language and religion and even the rituals within religion are vast and different as they are in Greece itself. The country called the trnc is not a country it is a territory of Cyprus currently under Turksih Cypriot/ Turksih occupation. A pice of land that is not recognised by the international community as a country is not a country, last time I watched the news I had seen a picture of Cyprus in its entity.


Thought you had decided not to converse with me? and I said I respect your decision.


he wasn't reffering to you, vip3, he was to reffering to vip2 :lol:
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Postby humanist » Mon Feb 19, 2007 3:11 am

Thank you Pitsilos for your referee, stance on this matter. I was generally responding to a comment that I find insulting to say the least. I AM NOT GREEK, I AM CYPRIOT, I find reference to Greek Speaking Cypriots as GREEK, Insulting and furthermore I find Turkish reference to Cyprusas Greek Cyprus more insulting and a propaganda against Greek Speaking Cypriots by Turkey who wishes to allign Greek Speaking Cypriots to Greece so that she can justify Turkeyfying the northern occupied Cyprus area.
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Postby BirKibrisli » Mon Feb 19, 2007 3:16 am

Pyrpolizer wrote:I am a Greek Cypriot myself but I don't see my roots in Greece. In fact every GC who I know of living in Greece becomes a psychological wreckage due to inability to adapt, and is full of inferiority complexes.As for those who got married the situation is really tragic...

Now how on earth you VP seem to so much like the mainland Turks, when I know for sure you have exactly the same differences like we have with the mainland greeks, is beyond my comprehension.


You are flogging a dead horse, Pyro gardas.
Viewpoints are not one whole entity as you know.They are fictional characters without any substance.They read from a script and write automatically.For all we know they could be all settlers or children of settlers.That might explain everything... :wink:
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