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[Viewpoint]

http://www.cyprus-mail.com/news/main.php?id=30725

this is also interesting only 18% of the populaiton was born in the south.

VP,

I swear I read this report 3 times and no where did I see anything about the 18% being born in the "South". I got even more confused, after "tessintrnc" made her post, so I read it again, to see what she saw, that I missed, and again, nothing.

So, what is this 18% all about.??

1. Is this the number of TC's living in the "TRNC" now, that were born, in the RoC area.?
2. If so, what is your point.? They were born in Cyprus where there were NO "North" and "South" at the time.
3. Is it possible, that majority that were born in the "South" prior to 1974, have left the Country, but we are still Cypriots from the "South".
4. The report failed to show the 40,000 Turkish troops, as non Turkish Cypriots.
5. The real number of Turkish Cypriots, according to the report, is 120,000 plus the 12,000 kids born to a TC and a settler family, equals to 132,000 "True Turkish Cypriots" now living in the "TRNC" out of 296,000. This does not even include, the families of the Turkish Troops stationed on the island.

That makes the "True TC" population at 44.6% of the overall residence of the "TRNC" not counting the families of the Turkish troops.

Not much to brag about, is it.?

The 18% is quoted in the Kibris newspaper where there are more details of the concensus.

The point is the 82% of the population do not know the "RoC" at all the do not identify with it or nor do they beleive they belong. Only ther older generation like yourself can identify with the old Cyprus, now can you understand why we do not feel liek you do about the south.

Come on the troops and students are not part of the TRNC populas in that case the south would have to include all the Indians Philipinos Russians etc the UK all the foreigners visiting etc.


The figures which were prepared with the help of the UN are stating that 178,031 permanently reside in the TRNC 120.007 are Turkish Cypriots with 12.628 children from Turkish Cypriot mixed marriages total 132,635 which is 74.50% of the total population are Turkish Cypriots with 42.472 being settlers which is 23.91%

[Kikapu]

[. Only ther older generation like yourself can identify with the old Cyprus, now can you understand why we do not feel liek you do about the south.

]

Well, you can count on me, the "old guy" and Bir, who is even an "older guy" ( I like saying that ) to help you guys feel more comfortable with you GC neighbours, once we find a solution.

Don't worry, we'll do it at one step at a time, slowly.

[axilleask]

We are heading towards a solution don't you think? Soon they will be no TC's living in the island

[cypezokyli]

problem is how different people ddefine "indigenous"

[Viewpoint]

[. Only ther older generation like yourself can identify with the old Cyprus, now can you understand why we do not feel liek you do about the south.

]

Well, you can count on me, the "old guy" and Bir, who is even an "older guy" ( I like saying that ) to help you guys feel more comfortable with you GC neighbours, once we find a solution.

Don't worry, we'll do it at one step at a time, slowly.

Sorry to tell you this but your breed is dying out and the new Cypriots think differently so you can clearly see that when we are long gone there will still be the north and south divide.

[Viewpoint]

We are heading towards a solution don't you think? Soon they will be no TC's living in the island

Just explain to everyone how that will effect you?

[humanist]

The report also makes reference to citizens, not people born to Cypriots who have a generation or so of Cypriotness prior to 1974. That wuld be interesting to see what the number of Cypriot born since 1974 had at least one parent born in Cyprus prior to 1974.

But VP it is your prorogative to support whatever you wish. If you are happy to accept that in a few years the number of Turikish Speaking Cypriots who had been born to Cypriot parents prior to 1974 are less than those born to anyone since then go fr it. If you believe the Greek Cypriots sold your people in the first place prhaps it is time to see how Turkish Speaking Cypriots with fanatical support for turkey are selling out their Cypriot brothers and sisters.

[Viewpoint]

The report also makes reference to citizens, not people born to Cypriots who have a generation or so of Cypriotness prior to 1974. That wuld be interesting to see what the number of Cypriot born since 1974 had at least one parent born in Cyprus prior to 1974.

But VP it is your prorogative to support whatever you wish. If you are happy to accept that in a few years the number of Turikish Speaking Cypriots who had been born to Cypriot parents prior to 1974 are less than those born to anyone since then go fr it. If you believe the Greek Cypriots sold your people in the first place prhaps it is time to see how Turkish Speaking Cypriots with fanatical support for turkey are selling out their Cypriot brothers and sisters.

Which ever way you look at it the TCs were/are always at risk of assimilation our numbers are to small to survive in the long run, the problem was whether we would be influenced by Greeks or Turks and seeing our origins are from Turkey then its only natural that we would rather return to our origins as an alternative to becoming Greek.

So you should not be surprised at this progression, for me the population of the TRNC is 256.644 Citizens full stop, they are all our people black white yellow doesn't matter, in a multicultural world the labelling of people will over time bear less significance but for now and as long as the TRNC exists we will live with our people in harmony and tranquility.

[DT.]

No comments why is that not so suprising??

out of an overall population of 256,000, just over 178,000 were ‘TRNC’ citizens and that 120,000 were of full Turkish Cypriot parentage, with another 12,000 claiming one Turkish Cypriot parent.

so out of an overall population in the north of 256,000 just 120,000 were TC's.
Thats 46% of the population VP. Congrats you've just admitted to being a minority.

please read again VP....it doesn't take a math professor.

[Viewpoint]

No comments why is that not so suprising??

out of an overall population of 256,000, just over 178,000 were ‘TRNC’ citizens and that 120,000 were of full Turkish Cypriot parentage, with another 12,000 claiming one Turkish Cypriot parent.

so out of an overall population in the north of 256,000 just 120,000 were TC's.
Thats 46% of the population VP. Congrats you've just admitted to being a minority.

please read again VP....it doesn't take a math professor.

256k residents
..77k temporary
178k citizens
120k two Cypriot parents
..12k one Cypriot parent
..46k no Cypriot parent

So what you are saying is that those born with just 1 TC parent are not TCs, at worst the position is 51% in favor of the Tcs but the temporary number is the key factor as this represents those TCs who live in diaspora and come to the TRNC who in order to buy land or carry certain transactions have to register themselves, I have plenty of family who are in this position and that have lived abroad for many years and have dual nationality and are of Turkish Cypriots parents.

So allowing for this the balance is still in favor of the TCs, how long this will last is anyone guess, if you want to unite with a more Turkish north than continue as you are if not then get your finger out show some flexibility and help the north to move closer to you rather than Turkey, but that needs a GC leader with a vision and yours appears to be very short sighted