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Bilingualism can be dangerous!

How can we solve it? (keep it civilized)

Postby turkcyp » Thu Jan 06, 2005 9:38 pm

Our problem lies at the fact that TC society are not as Ethnocentric as GC society, and are not as radical and conservative as the GC society.

So in a situation like this, when there is a combining of socities, the more conservative and radical society affects the more liberal society much more.

And actually a while ago, a Turkish settler friend of mine told me that "GCs never liked settlers just for that reason. Because settler are as radical and conservative as the GCs so it is much much harder for them to dominate them. But on the other hand TCs are much more liberal and and open minded so they are very docile" I can see traces of truth in this assesment. (The subject we were discussing was about why settlers are more conservative then TCs in terms of religion.)

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Postby Saint Jimmy » Thu Jan 06, 2005 9:40 pm

Ok, the Maronite argument lies in ruins! :D

About the difference of your mother being raised in a unitary state versus a federated state, do you not think that TCs being predominantly in the same area (namely, the TC component state) would aid preserving the language? If you are the majority in your own state, who's there to interfere?
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Postby KELEBEK » Thu Jan 06, 2005 9:53 pm

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Thats precisely why i think they would get along so well, if they were forced to live with one another.

They share so much in common,

Turks (not T/Cs) oppress Kurds
G/C oppressed and would like to have the opportunity to oppress again T/C

Turks are over religious or atleast Islam has a strong hold over them, the G/C are religious and the Church a powerful force in Southern Cyprus that influences politics (Annan Plan)


Turks deny that they massacred / committed genocide of Armenians in 1915-17, similarly the G/C deny they planned to commit genocide (Akritas Plan)

Both Turks and G/C believe that their states belong to them and them alone and that their "minorities" Kurds and T/C should go along with what they say and shut up.

Both Turks and G/C expect T/c to be "grateful", one for intervening / invading (which ever way you see it) and the other for giving us Greek Cyprus passports.

Both Turks and G/C claim to reprsent all citizens but give 1 hour a week of broadcast in Kurdish or in Greek Cyprus` case Turkish.

Both Turks and G/C used state terror against their main "minority".

G/C tried to disenfranchise T/C back before 1974, now the Turks are doing the same thing by shipping in voters.

They are a mirror of each other and deserve each other.
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Postby KELEBEK » Thu Jan 06, 2005 9:54 pm

St Jimmy

About the difference of your mother being raised in a unitary state versus a federated state, do you not think that TCs being predominantly in the same area (namely, the TC component state) would aid preserving the language? If you are the majority in your own state, who's there to interfere?



Not if up to 50% of that T/C state are G/C.
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Postby Saint Jimmy » Thu Jan 06, 2005 9:58 pm

KELEBEK wrote:St Jimmy
Not if up to 50% of that T/C state are G/C.


Hmm, you could be right, but then again, it just sounds too far-fetched an assumption to me, for no particular reason (I am not exactly a linguistic expert, you see).
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