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Question of Armenian genocide - "Screamers" movie

Postby Mills Chapman » Sat Feb 10, 2007 7:57 am

Hello everybody,

I just thought I would share this link to a preview of a movie documentary that has been released in America. It's 6 minutes long and includes an interview with Hrant Dink. I'm not making a judgment about it, but simply passing along information.

http://-trailers.blogspot.com/2006/11/s ... ailer.html
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Postby LENA » Sat Feb 10, 2007 8:05 am

I would love to see VP posts/comments here!!!

Very intresting movie Mills Chapman!
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Re: Question of Armenian genocide - "Screamers" mo

Postby Kifeas » Sat Feb 10, 2007 8:20 am

Mills Chapman wrote:Hello everybody,

I just thought I would share this link to a preview of a movie documentary that has been released in America. It's 6 minutes long and includes an interview with Hrant Dink. I'm not making a judgment about it, but simply passing along information.

http://-trailers.blogspot.com/2006/11/s ... ailer.html


Mills Chapman, what are you trying to imply?

There has never been an Armenian Genocide! The only genocide that has been attempted and forwarded during the past century was the one we the Greek Cypriots have carried on against the Turkish Cypriots from 1963 until 1974, when Turkey came over and with a peace operation saved those few of them left. Haven't you read or heard about that horrible, diabolical secret genocide manuscript called the "Akritas plan?"
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Postby Mills Chapman » Sat Feb 10, 2007 8:30 am

Kifeas, I am a believer in freedom of information. Please read what I wrote - I did not say that the genocide happened. Feel free to post any counter-claims to this movie preview, which I did not make. I simply came across it while looking for good movies to see right now in the U.S. for my family tomorrow night; I did not look at this option because of the content but rather because the movie critics gave the filmmaking a good grade.

If there was a film highlighting the slaughter of Turkish Cypriots by Greek Cypriots that was given a good grade by the movie reviewers (for its filmmaking and not the political agenda), I would have done the same exact thing.
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Postby Mills Chapman » Sat Feb 10, 2007 8:32 am

This was the actual review that I saw. "B" means a grade of B, which is not the best grade for a movie (that would be "A") but the second-best grade. http://www.ew.com/ew/article/0,,20010415,00.html
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Postby Kifeas » Sat Feb 10, 2007 8:57 am

Mills Chapman wrote:Kifeas, I am a believer in freedom of information. Please read what I wrote - I did not say that the genocide happened. Feel free to post any counter-claims to this movie preview, which I did not make. I simply came across it while looking for good movies to see right now in the U.S. for my family tomorrow night; I did not look at this option because of the content but rather because the movie critics gave the filmmaking a good grade.

If there was a film highlighting the slaughter of Turkish Cypriots by Greek Cypriots that was given a good grade by the movie reviewers (for its filmmaking and not the political agenda), I would have done the same exact thing.


Just because we the Greek Cypriots (and the Armenians) are experts in propaganda making, and just because the Turkish people and their governments like to always tell the truth and never lie or make false propaganda claims; it doesn’t mean that we have to believe that an Armenian genocide indeed happened, or a genocide -a semi-finished one- from the part of the Greek Cypriots against the TC community did not take place!

Didn’t you read the genocide manuscript called the "Akritas plan," in which everything is so clearly described regarding the GC plans to annihilate the Turkish Cypriots?

Didn’t you hear about the revelation and admittance by our current president Papadopoulos, who in 1964 had said to the Americans that if Turkey would continue its plans and efforts in carry out a peace operation -similar to the one it successfully carried out in 1974, in order to liberate half of Cyprus from the then Greek Cypriot occupation and save the TCs from being annihilated; that we the GCs have the plans and the means to wipe them out (the TCs) in 75 minutes?

What other evidence are you looking for? Don’t you see in the film you provided, those very civilized and educated mustached Anatolian Turks how passionately they demonstrate against the despicable Armenian propaganda lies? How someone that doesn’t know the truth would or could demonstrate so passionately against an injustice? These people must know something more than we do, to be so passionate and real!

Yes Mills! In the same way that an Armenian genocide never occurred, and the Turks are right not to accept or admit it; in exactly the same way a TC genocide did occur, and the Turks are again right to demand from the GCs to acknowledge and admit it!
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Postby miltiades » Sat Feb 10, 2007 9:18 am

Kifeas , you could easily be misunderstood by some . The ironical approach can sometimes backfire.

As far as the G/C massacre against the T/Cs , I think we did establish that 8 years before Turkey stepped in in order to put and end to the imaginary genocide taking place , not ONE SINGLE T/C LOST HIS/HER LIFE.
Turkey does a have a tendency to interpret events according to her own interpretation , hence the denial of the Armenian genocide , and the promotion of the " imaginary annihilation of the T/Cs that produced NIL DEATHS
eight years before invading in order to put a stop to the ongoing slaughter.
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Postby Kifeas » Sat Feb 10, 2007 9:27 am

miltiades wrote:Kifeas , you could easily be misunderstood by some . The ironical approach can sometimes backfire.

As far as the G/C massacre against the T/Cs , I think we did establish that 8 years before Turkey stepped in in order to put and end to the imaginary genocide taking place , not ONE SINGLE T/C LOST HIS/HER LIFE.
Turkey does a have a tendency to interpret events according to her own interpretation , hence the denial of the Armenian genocide , and the promotion of the " imaginary annihilation of the T/Cs that produced NIL DEATHS
eight years before invading in order to put a stop to the ongoing slaughter.


Oh c'mon Miltiades!!!! You are such a denialist!!! The Turkish Cypriots, from being the 82% of Cypriots in 1960 they have ended up being only the 18% of Cyprus in 1974, when Turkey liberated north Cyprus from the RoC and the Greek Cypriot occupation of their homeland, and you tell me now that genocide against the TCs did not occur? You have surpassed even those Armenians, with your propaganda lies!
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Postby Mills Chapman » Sat Feb 10, 2007 9:38 am

Hi Kifeas,

I now get the irony - :) - but I have to admit that if it wasn't for Miltiades, I would still be misinterpreting your tone. Written communication often messes up one's attempt to be sarcastic or ironic, but now I understand! I was starting to wonder after looking below your name and reading how your family was pushed out of Lapithos.
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Postby Kifeas » Sat Feb 10, 2007 9:56 am

Mills Chapman wrote:Hi Kifeas,

I now get the irony - :) - but I have to admit that if it wasn't for Miltiades, I would still be misinterpreting your tone. Written communication often messes up one's attempt to be sarcastic or ironic, but now I understand! I was starting to wonder after looking below your name and reading how your family was pushed out of Lapithos.


What do you mean Mills Chapman??? Are you saying that Turkish Republic of Northern Cyprus, the ancestral homeland of the Turkish Cypriots and the Anatolian Turks, has never been under Greek Cypriot and RoC occupation, before it was liberated by motherland Turkey with a peace operation in 1974?

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Do you see this photo above? This is Girne harbor in 1972 -the town the Greeks illegally named as Kyrenia when they invaded and occupied it some 3,500 years ago, and ever since kept the indigenous Turks enslaved under their yoke! What do you see in this photo? Don’t you see the flag of the occupying power, the so called Republic of Cyprus, waving in the upper right corner? What other evidence do you need?
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