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[Mills Chapman]

I think they can all form a new country with all the Cypriots that you keep telling to fuck off Mils.......

Zan, thanks for the interesting Youtube video. I still have to watch a couple more segments.

Above, are you referring to Mills or Miltiades?

[shahmaran]

Pyr your Armenian genocide facts are soo off they would make a rotten egg cry.....

[T_C]

Can someone try and help me understand what this man is talking about here....

“As you remember, the Turkish Premier proposed formation of a commission of historians on investigation of the Armenian Genocide issue. In response, the Armenian President offered to form an intergovernmental Armenian-Turkish commission on establishment of a dialogue between the two states. We meet with the Turkish MFA officials from time to time, however, I should repeat that Armenia’s stance on the issue is unchangeable. We are ready for normalization of relations without preconditions while Turkey lays down conditions as regards the Armenian Genocide issue.”

Does this mean Turkey wants an investigation into the genocide, while the Armenians just want to "try to be friends" so to speak?

[shahmaran]

Can someone try and help me understand what this man is talking about here....

“As you remember, the Turkish Premier proposed formation of a commission of historians on investigation of the Armenian Genocide issue. In response, the Armenian President offered to form an intergovernmental Armenian-Turkish commission on establishment of a dialogue between the two states. We meet with the Turkish MFA officials from time to time, however, I should repeat that Armenia’s stance on the issue is unchangeable. We are ready for normalization of relations without preconditions while Turkey lays down conditions as regards the Armenian Genocide issue.”

Does this mean Turkey wants an investigation into the genocide, while the Armenians just want to "try to be friends" so to speak?

yes Armenians seem quite stubborn on their position but the Turks seem to be asking historians (not politicians) to investigate the subject which they have openly suggested, but obviously everyone else seems to know a lot better than the actual people involved, and lets not forget what role these external people played during the war as well...

[T_C]

Well then if they dont want it investigated then they should just shut the f**k up then. Its one thing Turkey denying genocide and refusing anything to do with finding out the truth. Its another thing for Turkey to deny it but offer for people to come and see for themselves that it hasnt happened.

I dont see what the problem is. Fair enough if its how they say it is then the conclusions the historians come to will show theyre right, so if theyre telling the truth then what do they have to lose by having it investigated? How can they blame Turkey for not admitting a genocide while at the same time refusing an investigation on it?

Probably because they know their own people had something to do with their fate.

[shahmaran]

indeed, most turks view this as more relentless attempts to de-stabelise turkey for whatever interests it might suit, specially when they are the very same people who were at it back at ww1, that american woman on the video clip is nothing but ridiculous...

[T_C]

They even go around saying the word genocide was made because of what happened to them, when in fact it was a man named Rafael Lemkin who lost his whole family to the nazis that invented the word in 1943!

Turkey doesnt exactly help with their laws either which makes them look kinda suspicious, but the fact that Armenians are refusing an investigation is pathetic. Here they have the chance to show people that there was indeed a genocide yet they dont want it? That in itself just speaks volumes.

http://www.tallarmeniantale.com/weems-No-genocide.htm

[miltiades]

Miltiades drinks more than I do, he told me tht the meaning of life is red wine

You forgot to mention the white wine on Sunday lunch !

[Pyrpolizer]

Pyr your Armenian genocide facts are soo off they would make a rotten egg cry.....

Shah my son….first of all thank you for admitting there was an Armenian genocide

Like I said my proof are the 4000 Armenians living in Cyprus. They don’t look like rotten eggs to me…

Now if you want to tell me some more excuses as to why it happened (e.g it was war time) then go ahead. Bear in mind that during war time innocent civilians, children, and women should be protected not be killed! Of course Hitler, who got the idea from the Young Turks, had a different opinion…

@TurkishCypriot, Shah et al:

The facts concerning the Armenian genocide can be discussed at Armenian web sites. You will get all answers to your questions there. For me the facts behind the genocide are not important. For me what is important is whether the genocide happened or not. And the FACT IS IT HAPPENED.

[shahmaran]

Pyr i said YOUR Armenian Genocide facts are OFF like ROTTEN EGGS meaning you have no clue MY SON!!

doesnt mean i aggree with you, not even close actually....

If war time is not a good excuse then you clearly aggree with the attemted genocide of the TCs in 74 as well, since that was "war time"...

and judging by your bigoted postition and extreamely weak argument you have obviously not read anything from the Turkish facts on the matter, infact i doubt you have read anything on it...