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Postby miltiades » Sun Feb 11, 2007 5:10 pm

shahmaran wrote:The massacers were commited in 1974 and i think it was you who claimed it was nothing but "strategical", this 8 year crap means nothing, before it was 5 years now its 8 years but the killings took place anyway so i truly dont want to go over again why Turkey had to intervene, you know just as well as i do why they did what they did, and EVERYONE except the GCs are more than glad they did it, for some reason not everyone was feeling as brotherly as you were...

People have been trying to divide that country for many years and they still are trying, so i truly dont care if we all have to give up some of our liberties in order to fight Armenians, Kurds and Islamic Extremism, anyone who doesnt like the way the Turks do things, they can fuck off to another land, its simple really!


Do not use someone else's words as if they were mine. Also it was 8 years prior to the Turkish invasion that no T/C lost his life as a result of conflict. The massacres that you referred to in 1974 were after Turkey invaded and there was a war going on. Thousands lost their lives.
As far as your comments that anyone that doesnt like the way Turkey does things , you are obviously refering to the 20 million Kurds are you not ? And where do you suggest they fuck off to ,since their land is in Turkey mostly.
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Postby Kifeas » Sun Feb 11, 2007 5:11 pm

shahmaran wrote:
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The massacers were commited in 1974

...or those of TCs that were committed by GCs that went insane after Turkey started its invasion and after it its own massacres against GCs?




oh right that explains it then, they simply went "insane" AFTER Turkey had started killing them :lol:, sorry to hear that, i guess problem is solved now, nice work Kifeas, where the hell have you been hiding that genius all this time?! :lol: :lol:

Well then, since we got that one out of the way, we can now safely assume that the TCs also went "insane" after 20 years of GC torture, or the Turks went "insane" after Armenian and Kurdish uprisings (that involved butchering Turkish villages) shortly after their empire had collapsed and foreign powers were trying to take a piece of their land from every direction, and maybe even Hitler went "insane" with all these Jews taking over with their silly black hats and curly sideburns, and who know how many other genocides have been commited due to "insanity".....

I hope this is the kind of mentality Miltiades was trying to advocate earlier on by defending you!

You really dont cease to amaze me each time Kifeas, seriously...


Of course, you would have wished that I would have tried to justify and /or excuse the massacres that some GCs committed against TCs, which all took place after Turkey started its invasion and massacres against GCs in 1974; so that I would have made your job easier. Unfortunately for you, my young bully, I did not fell in such a trap. I have never justified or excused such crimes, but only descried the circumstances and climate under which they took place. That by itself doesn't mean that I justified them in whichever sense, and the fact that I called them massacres, nevertheless, speaks volumes on my intentions.

Your problem, my young bully, is that you -and many others here, suffer from an emotionally very painful syndrome, that of cognitive dissonance. You now begin to gradually discover the inconsistencies and the lies you have been brought up with, all these years, as new information comes up in the light, and you find it very hard and painful to accept and digest that what you had been conditioned to believe since your childhood, as the absolute truth, can have a different side of the coin as well, one that demolishes the propaganda and the self-righteous perspective of your Denktashist leadership and that of it’s Turkish deep-state mentors. In that sense, and to this end, you have my absolute sympathy.
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Postby zan » Sun Feb 11, 2007 5:17 pm

I think they can all form a new country with all the Cypriots that you keep telling to fuck off Mils....... :wink: :lol:
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Postby shahmaran » Sun Feb 11, 2007 5:28 pm

miltiades i did not say Kurds, i said ANYONE, for example the people who oppse to the crime of "insulting Turkishness" as silly as it sounds to me too, i have to say, if you want to freely offend "turkishness" then fuck off to a place where you can and stop whinging about the Turks, this is Turkey not fuckin Kurdistan nor bloody Armenia...

America did help he Kurds rise up agaisnt Saddam, shortly before they got gassed by him trying, and then went to war in order to "defend the rights of these peopole", i truly cant help seing a similar situation with the Armenians and the people who helped them rise up against Turkey which got them killed as well, and these people are the same people who are, yet again, trying to "defend the rights of the people" they very cleverly tried to use against the Turks during WW1. can anyone else not see the irony? because i know how easy it is, specially HERE, for most people to just blame it all on the Turks.

Kifeas make up your mind my man, its either genocide or not, if what the Turks did (during the war time) is according to you, genocide, then so is what the GCs did (during the war time) in Cyprus, you cant have it both ways my elderly dillusional racist friend. It doesnt only become genocide when the Turks do it, and "just war" when the Greeks do it, plus i do not care about what you are willing to justify or not, you have gone WAY beyond the point of me considering any truth or rationale within you, if you havent noticed im not trying to negotiate with you, im compleatly opposing to you incredibly ridiculous stance which you even have the stupidifiying face to sarcastically juxtapose, therefore take it or leave it doesnt bother me... ;)
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Postby Pyrpolizer » Sun Feb 11, 2007 5:30 pm

Shahmaran wrote: and foreign powers were trying to take a piece of their land from every direction, and maybe even Hitler went "insane" with all these Jews taking over with their silly black hats and curly sideburns, and who know how many other genocides


All these are excuses Shah. Hitler also discovered an excuse. The excuse was the Jews controlled everything in Germany. So the Arian race was in danger.
Similar excuses were invented by Turkey concerning the Armenian genocide.
I really don’t need to watch any video, or any manufactured propaganda to learn the truth.

There are 4000 Armenians living in Cyprus! Go ask each and everyone separately. He will tell you eye witness stories coming either from himself or his parents. And each and every Armenian living in Cyprus will tell you how many members of his family were killed and how many survived. I am sorry, but I don’t really need any further proof that there was in fact an Armenian Genocide.
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Postby zan » Sun Feb 11, 2007 5:34 pm

Pyrpolizer wrote:
Shahmaran wrote: and foreign powers were trying to take a piece of their land from every direction, and maybe even Hitler went "insane" with all these Jews taking over with their silly black hats and curly sideburns, and who know how many other genocides


All these are excuses Shah. Hitler also discovered an excuse. The excuse was the Jews controlled everything in Germany. So the Arian race was in danger.
Similar excuses were invented by Turkey concerning the Armenian genocide.
I really don’t need to watch any video, or any manufactured propaganda to learn the truth.

There are 4000 Armenians living in Cyprus! Go ask each and everyone separately. He will tell you eye witness stories coming either from himself or his parents. And each and every Armenian living in Cyprus will tell you how many members of his family were killed and how many survived. I am sorry, but I don’t really need any further proof that there was in fact an Armenian Genocide.



What just like you boys that have been fed propaganda all these years and will not listen to any other truth???
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Postby karma » Sun Feb 11, 2007 5:48 pm

Turkey cant be accused for what happened in Ottoman Empire time...As Italians cant be accused for Roman Empire period..but still there r many things to be accused in Turkey since 1923..
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Postby Pyrpolizer » Sun Feb 11, 2007 6:06 pm

zan wrote:
Pyrpolizer wrote:
Shahmaran wrote: and foreign powers were trying to take a piece of their land from every direction, and maybe even Hitler went "insane" with all these Jews taking over with their silly black hats and curly sideburns, and who know how many other genocides


All these are excuses Shah. Hitler also discovered an excuse. The excuse was the Jews controlled everything in Germany. So the Arian race was in danger.
Similar excuses were invented by Turkey concerning the Armenian genocide.
I really don’t need to watch any video, or any manufactured propaganda to learn the truth.

There are 4000 Armenians living in Cyprus! Go ask each and everyone separately. He will tell you eye witness stories coming either from himself or his parents. And each and every Armenian living in Cyprus will tell you how many members of his family were killed and how many survived. I am sorry, but I don’t really need any further proof that there was in fact an Armenian Genocide.



What just like you boys that have been fed propaganda all these years and will not listen to any other truth???


Another Lunar thunderstrike…. :razz:
Zany boy, this must be a very difficult day for you. Try tomorrow. :wink:
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Postby zan » Sun Feb 11, 2007 6:09 pm

OK :roll:
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Postby Pyrpolizer » Sun Feb 11, 2007 6:09 pm

karma wrote:Turkey cant be accused for what happened in Ottoman Empire time...As Italians cant be accused for Roman Empire period..but still there r many things to be accused in Turkey since 1923..


Turkey WAS ESTABLISHED on the genocides committed by the Young Turks of ATATURK. In case you can't see the difference between todays Italy and the Roman Empire, and todays Turkey and what the Young Turks did, then you are beyond help.
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