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[T_C]

Well what can I say...

At the end of the day considering the circumstances I dont blame Turkey for wanting an investigation and not admitting anything. When people feel the need to tell lies, present questionable documents as proof, constantly change stories and then turn round to refuse an investigation then it seriously raises doubts. You have to ask yourself since theyre so desperate to get Turkey to admit then why are they refusing something that would put a closure to it all and finally get what they want?

Even if they say they dont need to investigate because they know it happened, if theyre so sure then what difference would an investigation make? Why bother spending all the money on trying to get the world to recognise the genocide when you can spend it on proving it?

[Pyrpolizer]

Shah’s definition. - - >

dude its the intention, the reason, for the killings plus a substantial amount of successfull kills that makes it GENOCIDE!

And subsequent rumblings: --- >

Holocaust was genocide (first legally recognised one), TCs was genocide, Armenians was not genocide!!!!

Here Shah tells us there was intention (ho ho just because he claims so) to wipe off the ethnic group of TCs of 120,000 people plus a substantial amount of successful killings i.e 800 dead within 14 years during their own fights that also resulted to 400 GC dead that can term the death of those people as "genocide"

Following the same Shahi logic the 1.5 million wiped off Armenians was not genocide, because hey there was no intention, they just died by accident, it was war time, such things can happen, there was starvasion, many Turks died too, blah blah blah.

BECAUSE IT WAS NOT GENOCIDE AND ITS NOTHING TO DO WITH THE NUMBERS!!!!

And his above screaming says, hey since it is already established that there was no intent, then there was no Genocide, it just happened by accident, the numbers thus become totally irrelevant. It could have been 1 million, it could have been 2 million it could have been 2.5 million out of the 2.5 million Armenians.

Is this what you are trying to tell us all along Shahi boy? Lets have a straight answer and let us play your own game in your own filed. Waiting…..!!


NB. Here’s a nice link for your educational purposes. Do you see Turkey listed anywhere near Hitlers Germany? Ny idea why is Turkey listed?

http://www.hawaii.edu/powerkills/GENOCIDE.ENCY.HTM

Taking both social definitions into account, governments have murdered probably around 174 million people during the 20th Century. Most of this killing, perhaps around 110 million people, is due to communist governments, especially the USSR under Lenin and Stalin and their successors (62 million murdered), and China under Mao Tse-tung (35 million). Some other totalitarian or authoritarian governments are also largely responsible for this toll, particularly Hitler's Germany (21 million murdered) and Chiang Kai-chek's Nationalist government of China (about 10 million). Other governments that have murdered lesser millions include Khmer Rouge Cambodia, Japan, North Korea, Mexico, Pakistan, Poland, Russia, Turkey, Vietnam, and Tito's Yugoslavia

[Pyrpolizer]

Well what can I say...

At the end of the day considering the circumstances I dont blame Turkey for wanting an investigation and not admitting anything. When people feel the need to tell lies, present questionable documents as proof, constantly change stories and then turn round to refuse an investigation then it seriously raises doubts. You have to ask yourself since theyre so desperate to get Turkey to admit then why are they refusing something that would put a closure to it all and finally get what they want?

Even if they say they dont need to investigate because they know it happened, if theyre so sure then what difference would an investigation make? Why bother spending all the money on trying to get the world to recognise the genocide when you can spend it on proving it?

Let me tell you something my friend. Turkey is the ACCUSED party in this case and the Armenians are the ACCUSERS. In my opinion neither Turkey nor the Armenians can investigate the matter between themselves. Someone else has to do it and someone else has to decide.

[shahmaran]

my god Pyr you are absolutely undebetable because you are a true idiot, accident? there was a war you plank! no one has suggested that they died by accident nor by any other means, there is just NO EVIDENCE to show that there was any genocide what so ever, and if you think your worhtless excuse for evidence (that being anything apart from your bosses grandpa or whatever ) you presented holds any grounds for your argument, than read the rest of the paper you utter moron

you really have no clue do you pyr? Pathetic is what you are really.....

[pitsilos]

and have you got evidence, such as signed confessions from the killers of the tcs?

i asked you before to show me evidence of a all these killings and genocides and i am still waiting.

the historians have't finished yet, how can you jump to conclusions with innuendos?

unless you got hard core evidence, take a number and stop telling lies

ever heard of the expression innocent till proven guilty?

[shahmaran]

right pistilos you have got me, i admit we have no real evidence that the GCs have commited genocide and we need real investigateion, we were just trying to piss you off, im sorry....so where do i get my ticket from again?

[shahmaran]

ever heard of the expression innocent till proven guilty?

[pitsilos]

right pistilos you have got me, i admit we have no real evidence that the GCs have commited genocide and we need real investigateion, we were just trying to piss you off, im sorry....so where do i get my ticket from again?

yeah i know turkey didn't genocide anyone either it was all a ploy to split up turkey coz the whole wide world was jealous of you having a dick called ataturk all to you self

[pitsilos]

so where do i get my ticket from again?

from the historians

[Pyrpolizer]

my god Pyr you are absolutely undebetable because you are a true idiot, accident? there was a war you plank! no one has suggested that they died by accident nor by any other means, there is just NO EVIDENCE to show that there was any genocide what so ever, and if you think your worhtless excuse for evidence (that being anything apart from your bosses grandpa or whatever ) you presented holds any grounds for your argument, than read the rest of the paper you utter moron

you really have no clue do you pyr? Pathetic is what you are really.....

Oooo enought of mercy to you boy.
Well listen representation of idiot supremacy. WWI was NOT declared by the Armenians, the Armenians were not fighting anyone, it is your Young Turks that declared a war against innocent Civilians, and it WAS NOT only against the Armenians, it was against all NON MUSLIMS in your rotten motherlands (fucking Ex-Ottoman) so called lands.

If there was EVIDENCE or not go ask the French Parliament. They are the strupid ones who accepted and recognised the Armenian Genocide and you are the clever know it all and have all the evidence that it never happened.




I said personally I don’t need to see any archives but who am I, I am not a nation that needs to recognise it or not. If whole nations will do (remember next will be the USA) then I will still hold my personal convictions to what degree that happened or not.

What happened to the lands and properties of those millions of Armenians who were genocided fucking moron decendent of thieves and genocide practicers?
Isn’t this the whole issue all about it hypoctitic kotsyre?