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[miltiades]

miltiades your blind arrogance that the Armenian genocide happened "FULL STOP" beyond any shadow of a doubt is like condemning a man to death without even a fair trial, can you understand the difference?

GCs hate Turkey full stop and will support anything and everyone that plays games to pull Turkey apart, as this will serve their purpose to weaken Turkeys hand therefore concede on issues concerning Cyprus, well this is very cheap and any arguments put forward by people like pits will only go in one ear and out the other as they can never display an unbiased or balanced perspective.

My so called blind arrogance is the one shared by the International community , do not forget that Turkey disputes the numbers killed not that there was no victims.America will soon join the rest of the world in classifying the killings as genocide.
Your comments on the G/Cs hating Turkey are valid since this foreign nation invaded their Island .As far as I'm concerned I have not one once of hatred for Turkey or mainland Turks with whom I do business on a daily basis. To disagree vehemently with a nations policies does not follow that you hate that nation. Unlike you VP , who brings up the hatred issue constantly I do not. All of my 1800 plus posts most of them on the Cyprus issue , mirror my attitude to the T/Cs , this is why there are T/Cs on this forum that call me their brother , this why there are G/Cs on this forum who detest me because of my feelings for you and all of the Cypriots. This why when I posted on a number of times my wish to see a T/C as the President of a united island emails arrived labeling me a Turk.
Contrary to the fact that some of my compatriots find my views unacceptable I reiterate that when a party has as its head a T/C and this party is elected by the people and this T/C politician becomes our president , and I underline the words OUR PRESIDENT , then I shall rejoice at the arrival of the" promised land" If an Armenian has the prospect of becoming our President then why not a T/C .

[pitsilos]

miltiades, no one said anything about hating turkey or the turkish people, the debate is about why a so called democtratic state does not allow her own historians access to the archives. why do they the armenians have to hold their hand. if you follow the debate with shahmaran you will see this.

only vague point and blinded people, when they have no answers divert the debate to other subjects such as hate. please follow the debate and see for your self.

show the truth and the truth will send you free. simple as that.

btw young shahmaran owes you an apology.

[Viewpoint]

There were about 80 TC people massacred in Tochni in 1974. And about 6000 GC people all over Cyprus.
The RoC archives have nothing in it. Lets deny it. Let's put historians to look into documents. Our historians Vs Turkish historians. They will never agree.

The FACT is there are LIVING WITNESSES....

One side will say no, there is only one witness, he is lying. There is no proof.

As for the 6000 GCs dead, where are the witnesses? Nobody saw them getting killed. Only the soldiers who killed them.Who is going to testify? Only their LIVING relatives who just never saw them again. And they will tell you the vast majority were women and children.

Yeah, let the historians open books and archives and everything will be there recorded by a computer....


For Shahs information again.

Turkey does NOT DENY the Armenian Genocide! It simply denies the numbers.
Turkey says only 300,000 Armenians were killed, not 1.5 million

In that case no one can confirm and refute that the Ottomans instigated genocide, so why all the fuss, Turkeys problem is not with numbers but the fact that it was not genocide but people who died during a war.

Your figure of 6000 GCs dead is also debatable, there is always a counter argument so trying to get the Turkish people to admit genocide in this fashion is not correct and will never happen it is no more than a ploy to weaken Turkey.

[pitsilos]

yes the big almighty turkey that shit her pants during the imia crisis. read the clinton book to see.

if you honestly believe that the whole wide world is out to get turkey, it shows how much out of reality you really are.



lay down and tell me all about it. i am listening


ps there will be a prescription afterwards

[Viewpoint]

miltiades, no one said anything about hating turkey or the turkish people, the debate is about why a so called democtratic state does not allow her own historians access to the archives. why do they the armenians have to hold their hand. if you follow the debate with shahmaran you will see this.

only vague point and blinded people, when they have no answers divert the debate to other subjects such as hate. please follow the debate and see for your self.

show the truth and the truth will send you free. simple as that.

btw young shahmaran owes you an apology.

You talk utter crap your posts show everyone how anti Turkey you are there is no need to make excuses your style and sick sense of right and wrong where Turkey is concerned just makes anything you post biased and therefore invalid and in noway can be taken seriously you accuse others of generating propaganda but you yourself have become the forums number one propaganda machine and resident comic.

[Viewpoint]

yes the big almighty turkey that shit her pants during the imia crisis. read the clinton book to see.

if you honestly believe that the whole wide world is out to get turkey, it shows how much out of reality you really are.



lay down and tell me all about it. i am listening


ps there will be a prescription afterwards

Turk hater....

[pitsilos]

this is vague point switching to plan B


ps still listening but anyway here is your prescription as promised

[Viewpoint]

miltiades

My so called blind arrogance is the one shared by the International community , do not forget that Turkey disputes the numbers killed not that there was no victims.America will soon join the rest of the world in classifying the killings as genocide.

So let the world decide taking into account the facts and not just Armenian propaganda which as you will admit is very strong asthey to have a very strong lobby.

Your comments on the G/Cs hating Turkey are valid since this foreign nation invaded their Island

As I have for the "RoC" and what it did and are still doing to my community.

As far as I'm concerned I have not one once of hatred for Turkey or mainland Turks with whom I do business on a daily basis. To disagree vehemently with a nations policies does not follow that you hate that nation.

I agree but with a balanced view as GCs views are clouded due to the fact that Turkey took action in 1974 which was an outcome they did not want.

Unlike you VP , who brings up the hatred issue constantly I do not.

I did provide examples of your hatred towards your so called "brothers" namely me.

All of my 1800 plus posts most of them on the Cyprus issue , mirror my attitude to the T/Cs , this is why there are T/Cs on this forum that call me their brother , this why there are G/Cs on this forum who detest me because of my feelings for you and all of the Cypriots. This why when I posted on a number of times my wish to see a T/C as the President of a united island emails arrived labeling me a Turk.
Contrary to the fact that some of my compatriots find my views unacceptable I reiterate that when a party has as its head a T/C and this party is elected by the people and this T/C politician becomes our president , and I underline the words OUR PRESIDENT , then I shall rejoice at the arrival of the" promised land" If an Armenian has the prospect of becoming our President then why not a T/C .

You are a tiny minority whos swimming upstream against a tide of GCs and Tcs who do not share you vision and utopian views, they see and live the reality everyday.

[pitsilos]

miltiades, no one said anything about hating turkey or the turkish people, the debate is about why a so called democtratic state does not allow her own historians access to the archives. why do they the armenians have to hold their hand. if you follow the debate with shahmaran you will see this.

only vague point and blinded people, when they have no answers divert the debate to other subjects such as hate. please follow the debate and see for your self.

show the truth and the truth will send you free. simple as that.

btw young shahmaran owes you an apology.

You talk utter crap your posts show everyone how anti Turkey you are there is no need to make excuses your style and sick sense of right and wrong where Turkey is concerned just makes anything you post biased and therefore invalid and in noway can be taken seriously you accuse others of generating propaganda but you yourself have become the forums number one propaganda machine and resident comic.

i didn't know being democratic, where you are free to voice an opininon contrary to state line is to be considered a sin? but then again if i was brainwashed, that would be a different cattle of fish.

dude you have issues.

you've got the prescrition use it el pronto.

and don't worry about client confidentiality rules, they totally apply and totally respected here

[Viewpoint]

miltiades, no one said anything about hating turkey or the turkish people, the debate is about why a so called democtratic state does not allow her own historians access to the archives. why do they the armenians have to hold their hand. if you follow the debate with shahmaran you will see this.

only vague point and blinded people, when they have no answers divert the debate to other subjects such as hate. please follow the debate and see for your self.

show the truth and the truth will send you free. simple as that.

btw young shahmaran owes you an apology.

You talk utter crap your posts show everyone how anti Turkey you are there is no need to make excuses your style and sick sense of right and wrong where Turkey is concerned just makes anything you post biased and therefore invalid and in noway can be taken seriously you accuse others of generating propaganda but you yourself have become the forums number one propaganda machine and resident comic.

i didn't know being democratic, where you are free to voice an opininon contrary to state line is to be considered a sin? but then again if i was brainwashed, that would be a different cattle of fish.

dude you have issues.

you've got the prescrition use it el pronto.

and don't worry about client confidentiality rules, they totally apply and totally respected here

Have you ever thought that you are brainwashed into hating anything Turkish so your opinions are so racist that they are totally one sided therefore invalid of course you cannot see this but others can.

You need to take a few steps back and reconsider your diabolically bad and sarcastic approach as you will only bring out the worst in people who will just disregard anything you say as you have no doubt noticed as you posts were left unanswered.