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Postby pitsilos » Tue Feb 13, 2007 4:39 am

pitsilos i have already told you that Turkey has openly said it should be dealt by the historians, anything further than that i suggest you start talking about why they dont and how they are not doing it since you are so sure about it and very un-brainwashed

and i am openly saying where are the resultst? because turkey announced this at least a year ago. or we on a never never schedule.

shahmaran, I asked you before and you ignore to answer, why doesn’t turkey open her own archives immediately and debate them internally and present them to the world? Surely you don’t need Armenians to hold your hand do you? you think you unbrainwashed mind could give us an answer on this one?

im up for democracy but if it means the religious majority of Turkey taking over than thanks but no thanks, we can already see the Europeans trying to deal wiht these people while desperately trying to hold on to their most fundamental understandings of "freedom" and how they are actually getting on with it, there are many muslims there who are prepared to exploit this freedom given to them anytime they get the chance, as we have seen with the charicatures of muhammed and americas prison camps that hold hundreds of prisoners without charge.

you are right off to the gas chambers then.

Ataturk has dealt with them back in the day, maybe not very democratically but definately effectively, there is just no arguing with someone who has seriously accepted the way of the divine powers to be and is against everyone else who doesnt believe...do i believe these people should have a say? i definately DO NOT, fuck them!

thats funny because uncle georgie has the same thoughts as you. and hitler comes to mind as well. he tried the same with his final solution. maybe this is what turkey needs a final solution because according to you, fuck them. you must be joined at the hips with uncle georgie :lol:. but surprising you argue with militades to the contrary. another example of you switching camps when it suits you. at least have the guts to apologise to miltiades.

so i suggest before you start accusing everyone around you of being brainwashed, you try to understand the true nature of the kind of people Turkey has to deal with in order to keep herself together and modern before throwing all that nonse at her and at me, because from where i stand you seem just as brainwashed and bigoted as you claim i to be, and its incredible that its coming from someone as old as you are...

we first are talking about human beings here and then turkish citizens. if turkey don't like it then split the country and give them half and let them do what they wanna do. don't just say fuck them. they also have rights. why keep on supressing their rights because you don't agree?

oh and i think Iraq is also a good example of this, we can see how well the democracy there is keeping the people in peace....

this another case of your inability to understand as to what bush is all about. the agenda is oil. but according to you bush should set up gas chambers to save time and money so he can move forward at a faster speed.

your only defence is that you are young and still got time to learn, i suggest you start immediately with perceiving people as humans and not as animals. those days are all gone with the exemption of some 3rd world countries lingering around, to which i am pretty certain, after debating with you, turkey is one of them.

the biggest joke of it all is turkey calling herself a democracy with aspirations in joining the eu. :lol:
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Postby karma » Tue Feb 13, 2007 8:02 am

[quote="miltiades"]Karma , you are forgetting that France produces the finest red wines IN THE WORLD .[/quote]

Yeah Miltiades, thts the only thing I appreciate with France :)
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Postby Viewpoint » Tue Feb 13, 2007 8:54 am

Enough Silence

The real aim of many people against Turkey outs;

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if turkey don't like it then split the country and give them half and let them do what they wanna do. don't just say fuck them.


You are a hypocrite of the worst kind, why don't you split Cyprus up we are much closer than to this reality then Turkey ever will be, your posts are full of venom and hatred towards a nation that fucked your arse inside out so that's understandable, this is why you continuously spew a load of biased and one sided garbage which you want to believe because anything anti Turkey must be right, well let them prove their claims, shah has told you over and over again Turkey has said lets hand this over to the historian experts yet Armenia has not risen to this challenge and you cannot debate this on your own as this has been attempted before and the anti Turkey people like yourself rushed to label it propaganda. Like you the Armenians continue to feed the world with crap and lies as they to were once fucked by the Ottomans for stabbing them in the back and siding with the Russians. The issue has also been debated in Istanbul but the Turkish people quite rightly started to protest against the injustice that Turkey is being held liable for happened during the Ottoman era. The whole aim of your deluded campaign and may others is to see Turkey "split into pieces" well you moron it ain't gonna happen so get off your high horse and try to extract the fluid from out where the sun don't shine cause you are f----d.
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Postby miltiades » Tue Feb 13, 2007 9:04 am

Viewpoint wrote:
miltiades wrote:The Armenian genocide happenned . Full stop .


What a load of crap, prove it...Full Stop.

Anything to discredit Turkey, this anti Turkey shit is getting out of hand and shows your own racists attitude towards a country that put you in your place in 1974, thats your wound the rest is just the pain and anguish of losing 37% of your island. Well continue with running Turkey into the ground it will get you absoulutely nowhere but only confirms once again your own arrogance and stubborness which Turkish Cypriots would do well to take head of as confirmation of what it would you would have to deal with sharing a united Cyprus, with annoying arrogant know it alls, who in fact are so blinded by their hatred for anything Turkish and therefore cannot display a balanced viewpoint. You have been Judge, jury and executioner and condemned Turkey without a fair trial.

You are not experts or historians on this subject all you do is put forward your personal crapy views, if the Armenians can prove genocide let them go ahead but dont expect Turks to take this laying down they to will fight their corner with everything they have and prove that these people were back stabbers who died during a great war through famine, illness and war killings.

The usual propaganda rubbish , you are trying to discredit me , you are attributing words to me that I have never uttered. For the lats time try and understand this. You will defend Turkeys honour with every part of your body but your braiN . I have posted anti-Greek (mainland ) comments many times and one idiot from Australia emailed precisely what you have just posted. Get it in your head I DO NOT HATE THE GERMANS BUT THE HOLOCAUST DID HAPPEN !! I DO NOT HATE THE TURKS (MAINLAND ) BUT THE ARMENIAN GENOCIDE HAPPENED .
As for your irresponsible pathetic comments ""1974 put us in our place""
Thousands died you and thousands became refugees , is this what you call putting some one in their place. Let me once again spell it out.
The responsibility for the conflicts and the killings lie squarely with Greece and Turkey the two cancers that have affected our island and caused us so much suffering. These two nations are responsible for creating the atmosphere of hatred between our people, just take a look at you and the amount of hatred you have for your Cypriot brothers .Let me reiterate what I have posted time and time again. For me there only CYPRIOTS , Not majorities or minorities . The T/Cs are my compatriots with whom I share our Island as equal members of a free and independent nation with its own identity. Those wishing to become part of Greece or Turkey should go and join their motherlands and leave the TRUE CYPRIOTS to enjoy their Island.
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Postby Viewpoint » Tue Feb 13, 2007 9:27 am

miltiades your blind arrogance that the Armenian genocide happened "FULL STOP" beyond any shadow of a doubt is like condemning a man to death without even a fair trial, can you understand the difference?

GCs hate Turkey full stop and will support anything and everyone that plays games to pull Turkey apart, as this will serve their purpose to weaken Turkeys hand therefore concede on issues concerning Cyprus, well this is very cheap and any arguments put forward by people like pits will only go in one ear and out the other as they can never display an unbiased or balanced perspective.
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Postby pitsilos » Tue Feb 13, 2007 9:33 am

enough silence? why did you get fresh battereis for your mouth? and what else can you do with your electric mouth?

have i ever called the tc community an uneducated islamists? have i ever said fuck the tcs?

but as usual you took a tiny bit of information and you twisted around to suit your agenda.

your quote needs a reference and here it is? my comment was a responce to the following which, again as per usual your alter ego seemed to omit.

shahmaran wrote
Ataturk has dealt with them back in the day, maybe not very democratically but definately effectively, there is just no arguing with someone who has seriously accepted the way of the divine powers to be and is against everyone else who doesnt believe...do i believe these people should have a say? i definately DO NOT, fuck them!


have i ever made any such claims for my compatriots? you mind showing me?


now back to the subject, and you might want to answer me coz, shahmaran seemed to vamous with out answering.

shahmaran, I asked you before and you ignore to answer, why doesn’t turkey open her own archives immediately and debate them internally and present them to the world? Surely you don’t need Armenians to hold your hand do you? you think you unbrainwashed mind could give us an answer on this one?

and yes talking about democracy is spewing my guts. keep it up. you are only making a fool of your self. as per usual.

if turkey fucked me up the arse, atleast it didn'd shoved my head up my ass :lol:

btw did you know there is a whole new world out there vague point?
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Postby Pyrpolizer » Tue Feb 13, 2007 9:38 am

There were about 80 TC people massacred in Tochni in 1974. And about 6000 GC people all over Cyprus.
The RoC archives have nothing in it. Lets deny it. Let's put historians to look into documents. Our historians Vs Turkish historians. They will never agree.

The FACT is there are LIVING WITNESSES....

One side will say no, there is only one witness, he is lying. There is no proof.

As for the 6000 GCs dead, where are the witnesses? Nobody saw them getting killed. Only the soldiers who killed them.Who is going to testify? Only their LIVING relatives who just never saw them again. And they will tell you the vast majority were women and children.

Yeah, let the historians open books and archives and everything will be there recorded by a computer....


For Shahs information again.

Turkey does NOT DENY the Armenian Genocide! It simply denies the numbers.
Turkey says only 300,000 Armenians were killed, not 1.5 million
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Postby pitsilos » Tue Feb 13, 2007 9:39 am

Viewpoint wrote:miltiades your blind arrogance that the Armenian genocide happened "FULL STOP" beyond any shadow of a doubt is like condemning a man to death without even a fair trial, can you understand the difference?

GCs hate Turkey full stop and will support anything and everyone that plays games to pull Turkey apart, as this will serve their purpose to weaken Turkeys hand therefore concede on issues concerning Cyprus, well this is very cheap and any arguments put forward by people like pits will only go in one ear and out the other as they can never display an unbiased or balanced perspective.


i guess you must have missed gully boy's meeting with uncle georgie, well here it is again.

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obviously its not about going through one and out the other is it?

ps. judging by uncle goergies expression he seemed to like it :lol:

i am just wondering if gully boy is a spitter or a swallower. the reason i ask is because you seemed to have a lot of experience on the subject. :lol:
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Postby pitsilos » Tue Feb 13, 2007 9:42 am

shahmaran, I asked you before and you ignore to answer, why doesn’t turkey open her own archives immediately and debate them internally and present them to the world? Surely you don’t need Armenians to hold your hand do you? you think you unbrainwashed mind could give us an answer on this one?


pyro get over to the north and hold their hand so it can encourage debate. it seems the turks are unable to do it with out someone holding their hand.

what kind of a democracy they claim to have over there in turkey. or better still do they know what democracy is all about?
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Postby pitsilos » Tue Feb 13, 2007 9:53 am

I asked you before and you ignore to answer, why doesn’t turkey open her own archives immediately and debate them internally and present them to the world? Surely you don’t need Armenians to hold your hand do you? you think you unbrainwashed mind could give us an answer on this one?


typical the good ol' vamous trick :lol:
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