Viewpoint wrote:Kikapu1. I'm not a Greek Cypriot. I'm a Turkish Cypriot. I thought you would have learned that much over the last 10 months, since I have been on the Forum.
I cannot be sure 100% on this issue as you cannot be about me, we can only according to what people post.2. You don't want an Army, that's just fine by me. I was thinking more for the TC's, for wanting some security. So I guess, security is of no concern to the TC's, so in that case, lets get rid of all the armies from both sides, in the first year of 10 years re-unification process.
What do we have to fear if there is no army? the GCs will not be able to attack us and we will not be able to attack them due to having no arms or forces to manipulate and direct at the other state.3. No, there won't be 20 GC representatives from the "North", or 20 TC's from the "South". There will be 20 TC's from the "North" and 80 Gc's representatives from the "South" in the 100 seat Federal representatives. You are getting the Federal Government 100 seats confused with the local State representatives, for each side, that may have very few GC's in the "North" and very few TC's in the "South", depending who will vote for them. My guess is, it will take many years, before we will see any TC's in the "South" or GC',s in the "North", voted for office, in the LOCAL GOVERNMENT.
This is where I think the GC will have problems accepting that all the reps from the North are TCs as they have in the past argued this is discrimination and that if a GC resides in the North he to should have the right to be elected just like a TC.4. I don't know what the RoC wants or not want. I'm giving you my version of how to "level the playing field" that you have been asking for. Why don't we propose this to them, and see what they would say. If they don't want partition to happen, or keep the present situation going as is, then such proposals need to come forward, to explore what possibilities are out there.
That's why we need a GC view as some of the suggestion like opening ports is something to which they object to 100%, in all honesty there is an element of we have all the goodies why the hell do we want to unite with the north, have you accounted for this attitude? A GC from Baf who is not a refugee or has no ties with the north does really want the boat rocked and will be against any solution. Id say this accounts for a large portion of the NO vote at the last referendum, the GC have what they want a GC state where they are in control and they do not have to share anything, the only problem is the refugees and wanting more land other than that they have what they want.5. Lets hear from others, as to what they would propose.
OK lets hear from the GCs what they think of your proposals.
VP,
1. Perhaps you missed this post way back, so have a read, and if you have any questions, let me know, as to who I am. July 3rd 2006 http://www.cyprus-forum.com/cyprus6336-20.html
2. Do not let my "Independent thinking and fair minded person for wanting a fair solution for all Cypriots" lead you astray, of my ethnicity.
3. As I said, I'm also happy for not wanting an Army. In fact, Piratis is of the same thinking, which he had expressed many times before. More money for other things.
4. The GC's will have to accept the "20 true TC's" and "80 true GC's" in the 100 seat Federal Government "Congress" as per Kifeas's Plan. As for local State seats, it should be open to all. After all, all citizens will want the best for their State and local community, within their State, "North" or "South" that they live in.
5. As Pyropolizer said yesterday, if the RoC opened up Ercan and Famagusta Ports right now, what assurances will they have, that we would want to unite 10 years later. I believe, if we reciprocate with counter gesture of goodwill every time they do something to better the situation of all those in the "North", then TRUST can be achieved, as time goes on.
6. So the person from Baf does not have any ties to the "North" as far as property goes, but I can't believe anyone would want to lose part of their country, all the same. California is about 800 miles long from North to South and 200 miles wide, West to East, and it had been suggested before to split the State into 2 ( North & South ) or even into 3 ( North, Central & South). It will never happen, because we love all of California, as it is now.
7. I too would like to get some feedback about this proposals from the GC's and TC's.
