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[ken910]

PITSO- GREEK CYPRIOT PASSPORT ACCEPTING YOURE RULE NOT TILL THE DAY I DIE

[ken910]

MEDICAL CARE = NO THANKS WE HAVE PLENTY CAPABLE DOCTORS AND CLINICS .WE R ASKING FOR POSITIVE STEPS FOR SOLUTION NOT FOR CRUMBS OR SHUT UP MONEY PPPPITSO

[pitsilos]

you asked nicely and i responded nicely but it seems your alter ego took over so here we are, back to square one.

did know you would make an excellent illustration in a proctology textbook k.k.k.ken.

[ken910]

PPPPPPITS YOU R SO SMART OOOOOO THIS MUST BE THE FORUM WHERE YOU PRODUCE YORE MOST BIZZARE WORK . HE HE LOONEY TUNE S YOU R SCARY NO WONDER THERE IS NO PEACE ON THAT ISLAND YOU R PROBABLY ONE OF THE FOUNDERS OF EOKA YOU R STUCK IN IN THAT ZONE THTS 4 SURE

[pitsilos]

PPPPPPITS YOU R SO SMART OOOOOO THIS MUST BE THE FORUM WHERE YOU PRODUCE YORE MOST BIZZARE WORK . HE HE LOONEY TUNE S YOU R SCARY NO WONDER THERE IS NO PEACE ON THAT ISLAND YOU R PROBABLY ONE OF THE FOUNDERS OF EOKA YOU R STUCK IN IN THAT ZONE THTS 4 SURE

how hard did you squeeze to come up with this one k.k.k.ken

[ken910]

WE R NOT ASKING 4 HANDOUTS FROM GC GOVERMENT POSITIVE STEPS 4 SOLUTION DO YOU KNOW THE DIFF PITSO

[pitsilos]

i think you used to be utterly clueless, but you manage to turn that around 360 degrees. well done k.k.k.ken

[humanist]

I agree with Ken in keeping with positive steps towards a solution the two leaders need to meet and with their respective committees as per July agreement, this will hopefuly lead to a solution before the oil drilling so that everyone can win.

[Viewpoint]

a level playing field.

..a level playing field = PARTITION.

Not necessarily, you have an airport we have one, you have a sea port we have one, you have no army we have no army, you have a postal address we have one, you have EU reps we have them as well and so on, nothing more nothing less a level playing field....whats stopping you?

Be careful how you use the word "you" and "we" to me.....I'm trying to be respectful.!!

As for everything else you have written, this would all make perfect sense in a 2 state 1 country solution, but until then, one can take all you have written, and run with it, with a Partition also. As long as this possibility of a Partition exists, I can't see the above happening.

Perhaps a new approach is needed for us all to get, on what you have written.

What you subconsiously have problems with is accepting that TCs are equals and that for 2 states to survive we both need airports and schools and workers and less settlers/immigrants, no army, return of refugees etc. Do you now understand what a level playing field is? The desire of the GCs is to have us depend on them for exporting our goods or even to fly abroad wont work, this cannot be forced and appears to be a way of dominating the TCs which they will never accept..

[Viewpoint]

Piratis,
This sentence
"The war was started by the Turks, who are the 18% and invaded us to take the 37%."
sums up why we will never get anywhere whilst people like you continue to deny the past. You are either ignorant of our own history or you are in denial. Do you still hold the view that the TC's rebelled in 1963/64 as well?
I did not appreciate the level of ignorance people have about the nature and cause of the Cypus problem.
History starts in 1974 does it?Oh my god -there is no hope for us is there?

Issy, I know the whole history of our island, unlike you who selectively remembers the tiny parts that suit you and forget all the rest.

So no, history in Cyprus doesn't start in 74. We have a 3500 years of history on this island, but the part of history were the Turks get involved in Cyprus started like this (since you asked about it):

Throughout the period of Venetian rule, Ottoman Turks raided and attacked at will. In 1489, the first year of Venetian control, Turks attacked the Karpas Peninsula, pillaging and taking captives to be sold into slavery. In 1539 the Turkish fleet attacked and destroyed Limassol. Fearing the ever-expanding Ottoman Empire, the Venetians had fortified Famagusta, Nicosia, and Kyrenia, but most other cities were easy prey.

In the summer of 1570, the Turks struck again, but this time with a full-scale invasion rather than a raid. About 60,000 troops, including cavalry and artillery, under the command of Lala Mustafa Pasha landed unopposed near Limassol on July 2, 1570, and laid siege to Nicosia. In an orgy of victory on the day that the city fell--September 9, 1570--20,000 Nicosians were put to death, and every church, public building, and palace was looted.

Many happened since then, and in the 99% of those many the Turks were the ones that oppressed and violated the human rights of Greek Cypriots, something that continues as we speak.

What I was referring to in my previous post was about the Cyprus Problem as it exists today, and that in fact started in 1974 with the Turkish invasion.

63/64 is just 2 years in our long history which are not any more related with the 1974 invasion than the previous years of our history. Surely, during those and a few more years GCs committed crimes also, but so did the TCs. But in the rest 99% of our history (including today) the Turks are the ones who are exclusively committing the crimes against us. So why do you forget the 99% of our history and what is happening today and you are trying to excuse all your crimes that you insist on committing even as we speak, with some tiny part of our history (and even that you choose to remember in the way that suits you)?

There is only one way to peace: Legality, human rights and democracy. Show to me the respect that you ought to show even to total strangers by respecting my legal, human and democratic rights, and respect is what you will get back from me. Show to me hostility and disrespect by trying to take away from me my legal, human and democratic rights, and hostility and disrespect is what you will get in return.

When did we have the chance to start a fresh with the new Cypriot Republic?, for us it was a chance to wipe the slate clean and built a Cypriot people but ho no the GCs had other plans the very day they signed it.

I think you are right, you and people like you are best off waiting for the swing...