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[shahmaran]

awww that poor POOR south! what can they possibly do, i mean they can do everything to keep TCs isolated but thats all they are capable of, they are ever so helpless when it comes to doing something good for the North, but hey thanks Miltiades, its the thought that counts

[Kikapu]

a level playing field.

..a level playing field = PARTITION.

[shahmaran]

come on Kikapu, its not like we are any different at the moment are we, i dont feel any closer to the south than most of them do to the north, we can either continue this way (which is practically partition) or actually try to do something about it without squeezing each others throats....

[Viewpoint]

a level playing field.

..a level playing field = PARTITION.

Not necessarily, you have an airport we have one, you have a sea port we have one, you have no army we have no army, you have a postal address we have one, you have EU reps we have them as well and so on, nothing more nothing less a level playing field....whats stopping you?

[Kikapu]

a level playing field.

..a level playing field = PARTITION.

Not necessarily, you have an airport we have one, you have a sea port we have one, you have no army we have no army, you have a postal address we have one, you have EU reps we have them as well and so on, nothing more nothing less a level playing field....whats stopping you?

Be careful how you use the word "you" and "we" to me.....I'm trying to be respectful.!!

As for everything else you have written, this would all make perfect sense in a 2 state 1 country solution, but until then, one can take all you have written, and run with it, with a Partition also. As long as this possibility of a Partition exists, I can't see the above happening.

Perhaps a new approach is needed for us all to get, on what you have written.

[Piratis]

Piratis,
This sentence
"The war was started by the Turks, who are the 18% and invaded us to take the 37%."
sums up why we will never get anywhere whilst people like you continue to deny the past. You are either ignorant of our own history or you are in denial. Do you still hold the view that the TC's rebelled in 1963/64 as well?
I did not appreciate the level of ignorance people have about the nature and cause of the Cypus problem.
History starts in 1974 does it?Oh my god -there is no hope for us is there?

Issy, I know the whole history of our island, unlike you who selectively remembers the tiny parts that suit you and forget all the rest.

So no, history in Cyprus doesn't start in 74. We have a 3500 years of history on this island, but the part of history were the Turks get involved in Cyprus started like this (since you asked about it):

Throughout the period of Venetian rule, Ottoman Turks raided and attacked at will. In 1489, the first year of Venetian control, Turks attacked the Karpas Peninsula, pillaging and taking captives to be sold into slavery. In 1539 the Turkish fleet attacked and destroyed Limassol. Fearing the ever-expanding Ottoman Empire, the Venetians had fortified Famagusta, Nicosia, and Kyrenia, but most other cities were easy prey.

In the summer of 1570, the Turks struck again, but this time with a full-scale invasion rather than a raid. About 60,000 troops, including cavalry and artillery, under the command of Lala Mustafa Pasha landed unopposed near Limassol on July 2, 1570, and laid siege to Nicosia. In an orgy of victory on the day that the city fell--September 9, 1570--20,000 Nicosians were put to death, and every church, public building, and palace was looted.

Many happened since then, and in the 99% of those many the Turks were the ones that oppressed and violated the human rights of Greek Cypriots, something that continues as we speak.

What I was referring to in my previous post was about the Cyprus Problem as it exists today, and that in fact started in 1974 with the Turkish invasion.

63/64 is just 2 years in our long history which are not any more related with the 1974 invasion than the previous years of our history. Surely, during those and a few more years GCs committed crimes also, but so did the TCs. But in the rest 99% of our history (including today) the Turks are the ones who are exclusively committing the crimes against us. So why do you forget the 99% of our history and what is happening today and you are trying to excuse all your crimes that you insist on committing even as we speak, with some tiny part of our history (and even that you choose to remember in the way that suits you)?

There is only one way to peace: Legality, human rights and democracy. Show to me the respect that you ought to show even to total strangers by respecting my legal, human and democratic rights, and respect is what you will get back from me. Show to me hostility and disrespect by trying to take away from me my legal, human and democratic rights, and hostility and disrespect is what you will get in return.

[ken910]

pits please give me 3 examples of positive steps taken or aknowledged by youre community please dont be such a bully because you do not intimadate us ppppits

[pitsilos]

ok ken because you asked nicely here they are

1...you were offered a port in larnaka for your export
2...medical benefits for free
3...a passport to the world via the eu

Ken, what ever i say, i am sure you will have a counter argument of some description. but at the end of the day some wrongs have to be corrected in order to go forward. when i say wrongs i mean for all cypriots and not just the gc.

but at the end of the day there will be a 2 state solution and a 1 country

partition to which you want it ain't gonna happen.

[ken910]

WARNING = hey everyone please dont say anyhing about partition or possitive about tcs otherwise pitso and his mates will turn on you NO FREE SPEECH HERE

[ken910]

WHAT LARNACA UNDER YOURE SUPERVISION THAT IS NOT FREE TRADE EVEN EUROPE WITH ITS DOUBLE STANDRDS ACCEPT THAT BUT NOT NOT PAPA , PITSO AND THE GANG