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[pitsilos]

Pitsilos,

There isnt anything that makes me think that people are interested in my behaviour.This explains why i did not say anything about my behaviour.

Maybe if you had learnt that to read with some form of comprehension you would not have to rely on ignorant aggression.

The Jews are disliked some believe with good reason,as are the Americans.I am merely saying that this can sometimes causes problems.

Turkey may be seen as the eternal enemy because of its actions in the past.Does this make it allright to teach then considering all the heartache that taught prejudice has caused the world over.

i will ask again are you teachers familiar with a thinking curriculumor is infrormation just given to a passive audience of school children?

Maybe if you had learnt that to read with some form of comprehension you would not have to rely on ignorant aggression.

spit it out curry boy

Turkey may be seen as the eternal enemy because of its actions in the past.Does this make it allright to teach then considering all the heartache that taught prejudice has caused the world over.

yes maybe you are right except of the part that to this very day, big momma turkey will not leave 200,000 return home, and apart of changing the democraphics of the island were the tcs are a minority, 200, 000 still can't go home.

and you want us to forget and forgive. am i reading you correctly curryboy?

why not do some background research and learn before you post on forum giving ridiculous advice.

and say hello to momma turkey for me.

[zan]

Firstly why is my backgroung important.I understand social etiquete and manners runs much of our lives for very good reasons but still feel like it will be used to pigeon hole my comments.

The 4 responses contained 2 with very little thought and were very predictable eg Ghandi and Kashmire.This highlights the behaviour which i am not interested in at the moment.

It is interesting to note that Turkey was seen as the eternal enemy-not suprisingly so.Same could be said about the Jews it is a dangerous philosophy.

It is great to see that there is more room in a classroom to question but i wonder if this something that it promoted in your teaching institutions?

You will learn very soon that for some Greeks will not accept any thing you say simply because you are not Greek. I think you have experienced what I mean already but do not give up. This is an open forum and if I were you I would invite along a few friends

[pitsilos]

and we drink raki togeher while we forgive and forget momma turkey.

[Ghandi]

Pitsilos u r truly a fool.

Not only do you not answer questions and can not comprehend once again as a question is different to advic,e you are also a racist.

I do agree that Turkey HAS CHANGED the demographics of the island for the worse.

My momma Turkey as you put it has to much influence on the Island.The main aim of the Northern Cypriot Education system is to unite and become invisible organs of the Turkish nation.To create a national consciousness that protects all that is Turkish not Cypriot.

This teaching of a strong national charactor which is a Turkish not a Cypriot one creates a prejudice.it also creates a attachement to Turkey and a zeal to serve it.

i am a history teacher and if history is studied this way then you might as well throw away your brain.

Much of the world is realising the importance of teaching human rights,different opinions and the ability to think.

We are in the information age and students should be taught how to be critical of all the shit that they will have to shift through.

Unfortunetely from the response of Mr Pitsasswhole and the fact that many Greeks will not lisen to my opinion as i am Not Greek i have a feeling that there are many similarities b/w the South and North they both have a poor education system.

I genuinely would like to know what others think about the systems so any ideas would be appreciated.

[LENA]

Hi Ghandi, welcome to the forum, I am a teacher too. i agree with some of your points. But can you please tell us something about your background? I mean where to you live, where are you from, where do you teach? I will appreciate your reply. I dont want to offend you and I hope you dont get me wrong...my concern is based on what kind of history do you teach...for eg are you British and you teach History in Britain, are you G/GC and you teach the Greek&Cypriot history or are you TC/T and you teach the Turkish history in Cyprus or Turkey?

[shahmaran]

i dont know about the south, but being from the north all i can tell you is that, there is pretty much no difference between going to a public school in Turkey and going to a public school in the TRNC, exactly the same curriculum and the same mentality, the TRNC schools are governed by the same people who govern the Turkish schools anyways...

i personally have grown to seriously dislike the extreme nationalistic bullshit that is fed to the kids along with everything else during my school days and i dont think the GC kids are educated in a different way either.

educating kids into believe that they are a superior race might make sense evolutionary wise, but it definately doesnt help for the global human cause and definately doesnt help situations as the Cyprus problem...

Mr Ghandi, dont let some people here provoke you into stepping down from your eloquent and kind manner, as they do themselves, most people here initially feel threatened by the idea that there are people out there who are willing to question the Greek ways, i totally aggree with you, we should all learn to criticise everything...

[Pyrpolizer]

Ghandi

here are the lessons taught at GC high schools and the weekly hours for each one.
Each lesson is taught by a different teacher.


Ancient Greek 3 hours (Ancient GreeK philosophers etc)
Relegious knowledge 2 hours
Modern Greek 4 hours (Same way English is taught in British schools)
History 3 hours
Phisics 2hours
Chemistry 1 hour
Biology 1 hour
Economics 2 hours
English 3 hours
French 2 hours
Sports 2 hours
Art 1 hour
Music 1 hour
Computers 2 hours
Technology 2 hours

I understand your major concern is about History and you suspect that specific lesson is used for propaganda.
What if I tell you that at least 2/3 of the History syllabus does not even deal with Greek history?
What if I tell you that the pupils are totally ignorant, and do not possess the abilities or the knowledge to discuss the things the books write?

I remember when I was a student at the 6th grade we were doing modern European history i.e French revolution, American revolution and the situation in other countries. I still remember one of the exams question was about the Dynasty of Pitts in England. What did I ever heard about the Pitts, this was just a name for me and the whole 6th grade history just another text to memorise and make my student life even more difficult…

I would say as in every other public educational system you learn some basic sciences, good use of your language, and some building of national identity.

[Pyrpolizer]

I should also point out that History taught at high schools is divided in periods.
At first grade we have prehistory...

[Pyrpolizer]

Oh and a general comment to Ghandi since he is a new member:

In here there are people who contribute.
There are people who don't contribute but discuss.
There are people who think they are the referees and just criticise the way others talk.
There are people who promote their agendas.
There are people whose job is only to destroy the discussions and bring them to a halt.
And there are people who serve refreshments.

Watch carefully how this topic will develop

[Pyrpolizer]

i personally have grown to seriously dislike the extreme nationalistic bullshit that is fed to the kids along with everything else during my school days and i dont think the GC kids are educated in a different way either.

educating kids into believe that they are a superior race might make sense evolutionary wise, but it definately doesnt help for the global human cause and definately doesnt help situations as the Cyprus problem...

Shah could you give us more details how is that done? Surely the maths teacher is not the one who does this "nationalistic" bullshit. So who does it?

To tell you what happens to us:
We have this Ancient Greek thing, Ancient Philosophers etc etc. We say "wow, our ancestors were really superior." (therefore we must be superior too)

Then we have the way the part of Greek history is taught:
The Greks were fighting the Persians. And they were always winning. Of course the books do mention a couple of times the Greeks lost, but there are so many details on their winning battles and so little about their lost battles that the pupil gets the idea that "the Greeks always win"…

Generally though I would say most GC students care more about Maths and Physics and modern Greek because these are the important lessons that will decide whether they will pass at University or not. English too for those who will study abroad.