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Postby Viewpoint » Fri Feb 09, 2007 2:31 pm

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Get real man!! The isolation was not imposed on you by RoC, it was created by Turkey's invation!! You wouldn't be talking about isolation if Turkish troops were not on the island!


I tried the polite approach didn't seem to have any effect now lets try it your way, you wise up mr, if it wasnt for the Turkish troops we would be long gone and forgotten and you would have the GC state you long for, so drop the shit act and try and understand what the reality is here.

Here you have an independed country being invated by Turkey which occupies 37% of its territoty


Just one sunny because Turkey felt like it, man you reek bullshit, you played with a bomb and it exploded in your face now you crying why did it explode well its to bloody late, you should not have pushed your luck.

For humanitarian reasons the RoC agrees to give TC direct access to the out world through its ports and airports.


If you could stop the flights and access you would tomorrow so do don't heap that humanitarian bull on us.

TC people are invited to use the legal ports for exports even for goods that are produced on stolen properties.


And be put through a GC mangle, with GC officials its like Israel or Italy saying come use our ports and go through our official channels so we can fuck you senseless if you want to send an orange to the UK. No thanks.

RoC goes a step further suggesting that we open co-manage the port of Famagusta and in return to allow the GCs to go back to Varoshia which is a ghost city that no one uses and is rotting for no apparent reason. Talat and Turkey still refuses and follow thair own agenda that is to open trnc illegal ports and airports just to get some kind of international recognition. We saw it happening in Taiwan do you believe that there is any GC that will agree on this?


Are you stupid or something we cant even open a crossing together let alone run ports jointly. Where in the lifting of isolation on the TC community does it say on the condition we hand you Maras, Ill tell you nowhere.
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Postby askimwos » Fri Feb 09, 2007 3:28 pm

Viewpoint wrote:askimwos
Get real man!! The isolation was not imposed on you by RoC, it was created by Turkey's invation!! You wouldn't be talking about isolation if Turkish troops were not on the island!


I tried the polite approach didn't seem to have any effect now lets try it your way, you wise up mr, if it wasnt for the Turkish troops we would be long gone and forgotten and you would have the GC state you long for, so drop the shit act and try and understand what the reality is here.

Here you have an independed country being invated by Turkey which occupies 37% of its territoty


Just one sunny because Turkey felt like it, man you reek bullshit, you played with a bomb and it exploded in your face now you crying why did it explode well its to bloody late, you should not have pushed your luck.

For humanitarian reasons the RoC agrees to give TC direct access to the out world through its ports and airports.


If you could stop the flights and access you would tomorrow so do don't heap that humanitarian bull on us.

TC people are invited to use the legal ports for exports even for goods that are produced on stolen properties.


And be put through a GC mangle, with GC officials its like Israel or Italy saying come use our ports and go through our official channels so we can fuck you senseless if you want to send an orange to the UK. No thanks.

RoC goes a step further suggesting that we open co-manage the port of Famagusta and in return to allow the GCs to go back to Varoshia which is a ghost city that no one uses and is rotting for no apparent reason. Talat and Turkey still refuses and follow thair own agenda that is to open trnc illegal ports and airports just to get some kind of international recognition. We saw it happening in Taiwan do you believe that there is any GC that will agree on this?


Are you stupid or something we cant even open a crossing together let alone run ports jointly. Where in the lifting of isolation on the TC community does it say on the condition we hand you Maras, Ill tell you nowhere.


Why do I feel that the same old tape is playing again?
As I said before in another post, then why are 40,000 turkish troops still here? Are you still afraid of the bloddthirsty GCs? What about completely demilitarising the island tomorrow and then sit down to find a solution? Do you think your masters would accept this? Or they going to play the same old tape as you just did?
And why the hell we wouldn;t be able to run the port of famagusta jointly? Because you say so? What about UN running it? I bet this wouldn;t serve your purposes either as it wouln;t give a hint of recognistion to trnc!
Can you also explain me what is the purpose of keeping famagusta rotting? What is the benefit to the average TC? Here is a chance to make a step of good will that wouldn't compromise TCs rights.

You just repeat and repeat yourself over "isolation" but you don't even help yourself. You selectively pick an EU decision that is vague and speak about measures too end the isolation but it does not specify which these are so you give your own interpretation...always seeking back door recognition. What about the tens of UN resolutions that speak about withdrawal of Turkish troops and return of the refugees? Obviously you forget about these don't you?

You couldn't have picked a more stupid argument than the one about Italy's ports and airports!! Wake up man and see the realities trnc is NOT RECOGNISED BY ANYONE APART FROM TURKEY. Are you stupid or what (just to return your comment).
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Postby askimwos » Fri Feb 09, 2007 3:35 pm

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Get real man!! The isolation was not imposed on you by RoC, it was created by Turkey's invation!! You wouldn't be talking about isolation if Turkish troops were not on the island!


How right you are askimwos. We wouldn't be talking about anything for that matter. We'd all be 6 foot under pushing up daisies.


You made your point...
Now why do you need the 40,000 turkish troops on the island...don't tell me to protect you from the bloodthirsty GCs. What about demilitarising the island first and letting an even bigger number of UN troops in while we try to sort the problem? Do you think that GCs will attack you once the turkish troops leave the island?


askimwos, no we don't expect an attack from the GC's. The troops are there as bargaining tool and nothing more. As the saying goes for every action there is a reaction.


Agree but you forgot the other purpose that turkish troops are on the island and this is nothing less than to safeguard TURKEY's agenda in case that the TCs stray from Turkey's plans for the island. Why do you think Talat changed so much in terms of CTP policies? I am sorry mate but the latter is even more important for Turkey than the first and you don't need a GC to tell you that.
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Postby Viewpoint » Fri Feb 09, 2007 3:43 pm

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Why do I feel that the same old tape is playing again?


If its what you believe why do you need to change it all the time? of course its going to be the same.

As I said before in another post, then why are 40,000 turkish troops still here? Are you still afraid of the bloddthirsty GCs? What about completely demilitarising the island tomorrow and then sit down to find a solution? Do you think your masters would accept this? Or they going to play the same old tape as you just did?


OK I agree the troops should go on both sides do you want to start? We both know that is not possible today but if we understand that we both and agree this it is at least a start.

And why the hell we wouldn;t be able to run the port of famagusta jointly? Because you say so? What about UN running it? I bet this wouldn;t serve your purposes either as it wouln;t give a hint of recognistion to trnc!


Now I know you are kidding we could not even arrange for an Olympic tourch to travel from south to north, can you imagine the mayhem running a port. Give it to anyone but your "compatriots" you have a port run by GCs why cant we have one run by TCs, its just so that you can keep the upper hand thats why, keep them isolated and they will want a solution. Well this is not ancient times and we will not starve of hunger behind the castle walls. Your wait will be in vain.

Can you also explain me what is the purpose of keeping famagusta rotting?What is the benefit to the average TC? Here is a chance to make a step of good will that wouldn't compromise TCs rights.


To keep you wanting a solution.

Wake up man and see the realities trnc is NOT RECOGNISED BY ANYONE APART FROM TURKEY


Maybe not today maybe not in 50 years time but who knows when we are long gone that day may just come.

But we are also not ruling out the possiblity of a better offer, the ball is firmly in your court.
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