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[T_C]

Turkey turning to Israel as its only supporter in its failure to accept responsibility for the genocide. It's a crying shame that a nation that has suffered the Holocaust should be helping this denial.

http://news.independent.co.uk/world/mid ... 101947.ece

Well maybe their stance should tell you something!

The Armenians have shot themselves on the foot by CONSTANTLY putting forth bogus evidence such as the "hitler quote".....if there was to be some sort of investigation, the Armenians ASWELL AS Turkey would be exposed and have a lot to answer for, hence why Turkey always says "lets investigate" knowing full well the Armenians will NEVER accept as it would raise doubts on the Armenian story.

Most people agree it was genocide, no amount of resolutions are going to bring these people back. Its time people moved on.

[shahmaran]

Of course, everyone does. But how that is achieved is another matter.

what would be the correct method in your mind to accompish their self determination..which appears to be an independant state?

I could not say.

I guess the "correct method" depends on which side you are looking from.

Unfortunately we live in an unfair world where the "correct method" is relevant to whom is superior. Which usually leaves the oppressed having to resort to "incorrect methods"

[DT.]

Of course, everyone does. But how that is achieved is another matter.

what would be the correct method in your mind to accompish their self determination..which appears to be an independant state?

I could not say.

I guess the "correct method" depends on which side you are looking from.

Unfortunately we live in an unfair world where the "correct method" is relevant to whom is superior. Which usually leaves the oppressed having to resort to "incorrect methods"

excellent response Shah. I have a whole new respect for you.

[shahmaran]

Well thank you

I suppose a Kurdish state within the borders of Iraq is one realistic possibility, but i cannot see how it will be allowed nor if it will be a sufficient enough solution that would serve the interests of all the Kurds who are scattered around such a large area which crosses so many borders.

[miltiades]

Of course, everyone does. But how that is achieved is another matter.

what would be the correct method in your mind to accompish their self determination..which appears to be an independant state?

I could not say.

I guess the "correct method" depends on which side you are looking from.

Unfortunately we live in an unfair world where the "correct method" is relevant to whom is superior. Which usually leaves the oppressed having to resort to "incorrect methods"

A very profound statement , didn't think you were capable of such superb and wise thoughts .Well done Shah .

[DT.]

Of course, everyone does. But how that is achieved is another matter.

what would be the correct method in your mind to accompish their self determination..which appears to be an independant state?

I could not say.

I guess the "correct method" depends on which side you are looking from.

Unfortunately we live in an unfair world where the "correct method" is relevant to whom is superior. Which usually leaves the oppressed having to resort to "incorrect methods"

A very profound statement , didn't think you were capable of such superb and wise thoughts .Well done Shah .

say the truth Shah...you're a little bit worried now aren't you?

[shahmaran]

More skeptical then worried

[denizaksulu]

Its a crying shame that the whole matter is being exploited in such a way

As they say Shahmaran, "thine enemy is my friend". Don expect mercy from these people.

[EPSILON]

I really wonder why nobody cares about the turkish people killed by british, french, italians, greeks, armenians and others during 1914-1922...
it really sounds wierd and unfair.

Question stupid.!!!! Correction question should be: how many civilians British, Greeks,Armenians killed during 1914-1922?

A genocide can not based on the number of soldiers of the enemy (both sides) were killed. A genocide is based on the number of civilians an army is killed during a war . A genocide is based on how much unhuman the politicians/army of a country was during a war.

This is what Turks do not understand because in their internal affairs neither the life of a Turkish soldier is count neither the life of a civilian- The only scope / target is Turkey to win (Actually not Turkey but generals)

This is generaly the problem of the majority of Turkish people they can not separate actions/things - they learned only black and white coulors-nothing else. This of course is not the point of a democratic state/population

[denizaksulu]

I really wonder why nobody cares about the turkish people killed by british, french, italians, greeks, armenians and others during 1914-1922...
it really sounds wierd and unfair.

Question stupid.!!!! Correction question should be: how many civilians British, Greeks,Armenians killed during 1914-1922?

A genocide can not based on the number of soldiers of the enemy (both sides) were killed. A genocide is based on the number of civilians an army is killed during a war . A genocide is based on how much unhuman the politicians/army of a country was during a war.

This is what Turks do not understand because in their internal affairs neither the life of a Turkish soldier is count neither the life of a civilian- The only scope / target is Turkey to win (Actually not Turkey but generals)

This is generaly the problem of the majority of Turkish people they can not separate actions/things - they learned only black and white coulors-nothing else. This of course is not the point of a democratic state/population

This description of your, that Turkey only sees Black or White is a true description of most GCs on this forum. Anything or anybody remotely connected to Turkey is Black and everybody else is White. Right? This is Racism , Period.