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Petition: An appeal to UK citizens

How can we solve it? (keep it civilized)

Postby Kikapu » Wed Feb 07, 2007 10:31 pm

Viewpoint wrote:[ on second thoughts you should never come north stay with you own kind in the GC state south of the BORDER.


Borders are only between defined Countries. There are no defined Countries on the island of Cyprus. At best, if there would be a Federal system, with 2 States, then you would only have a "State Line" and still no BORDERS.
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Postby Pyrpolizer » Wed Feb 07, 2007 10:40 pm

Waste of time my friend.
I told VP after a solution I dream of becoming 2 million population total in our little island and you know what he said?

That would be fine by me as long as they stay on your side of the BORDER :shock: :shock: :shock: :shock:
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Postby Kikapu » Wed Feb 07, 2007 10:48 pm

Shah,

I was thinking to myself today, and for some reason, some of your past posts came to my mind. I do that a lot it seems like lately. Not just you, but others also. You do not have to answer these question, if you do not want to, but I was curious anyway.

1. You claim that you ONLY have a "TRNC" Passport.
2. You are in the UK.
3. You are not working right now.
4. You work "freelance" ( I guess when you were working ).
5. You work with computers.
6. You only spent 25% of your life away from Cyprus, your birth place.

My question is, how can you;

a) Be allowed to stay so long in the UK
b) Work in the UK ( I presumed that you have in the past )

I know UK is hard to get into with a Turkish Passport. How is it, it is much easier with the "TRNC" Passport.

No hidden agenda here, I was just wondering.

Thanks.
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Postby Kikapu » Wed Feb 07, 2007 11:03 pm

Pyrpolizer wrote:Waste of time my friend.
I told VP after a solution I dream of becoming 2 million population total in our little island and you know what he said?

That would be fine by me as long as they stay on your side of the BORDER :shock: :shock: :shock: :shock:


The more VP writes, the more he sounds like a Mainland Turk, because everything about Cyprus is a BORDER to him. He claims to be a Turkish Cypriot, but that could just be through marriage and a Naturalization in the "TRNC". It would also explain his complete resistance to do anything with GC's, because mainland Turks do not take too kindly to GREEKS in General. This may also explain, his steadfast on the SETTLERS remaining in Cyprus, if and when a solution is found. Of course, it would serve Turkey better, if there were no solutions, and VP agrees with that. He talks about partition 9 times, and if pressed, he will mention a settlement 1 time. I don't know who he is "preaching" to, here on the forum with his partition, because Zan, mrfromng and perhaps Shah, are already on board. He has not converted anyone else, so who ever is paying him for his time to write 18 hours a day, are not getting their moneys worth.

I'm holding out for Shah, to choose a settlement.
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Postby Pyrpolizer » Wed Feb 07, 2007 11:16 pm

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If I may step in, Shah said he said many things under pressure. He corrected some things afterwards and I admired his honesty, and called him "my son", because he looks like my younger son.

NB. Miltiades said Shah was raised and did all his schooling in UK.I think Shah said it was true (I could be wrong though better he clarifies)
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Postby Kikapu » Wed Feb 07, 2007 11:21 pm

Pyrpolizer wrote:Kikapu
If I may step in, Shah said he said many things under pressure. He corrected some things afterwards and I admired his honesty, and called him "my son", because he looks like my younger son.

NB. Miltiades said Shah was raised and did all his schooling in UK.I think Shah said it was true (I could be wrong though better he clarifies)



Yes, I know all that Pyrpolizer. I read almost everything that he has written. I too like him, because he is more open minded than others.

He'll be even better, after he meets with LENA: :wink:
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Postby Pyrpolizer » Wed Feb 07, 2007 11:31 pm

Kikapu wrote:
Pyrpolizer wrote:Waste of time my friend.
I told VP after a solution I dream of becoming 2 million population total in our little island and you know what he said?

That would be fine by me as long as they stay on your side of the BORDER :shock: :shock: :shock: :shock:


The more VP writes, the more he sounds like a Mainland Turk, because everything about Cyprus is a BORDER to him. He claims to be a Turkish Cypriot, but that could just be through marriage and a Naturalization in the "TRNC". It would also explain his complete resistance to do anything with GC's, because mainland Turks do not take too kindly to GREEKS in General. This may also explain, his steadfast on the SETTLERS remaining in Cyprus, if and when a solution is found. Of course, it would serve Turkey better, if there were no solutions, and VP agrees with that. He talks about partition 9 times, and if pressed, he will mention a settlement 1 time. I don't know who he is "preaching" to, here on the forum with his partition, because Zan, mrfromng and perhaps Shah, are already on board. He has not converted anyone else, so who ever is paying him for his time to write 18 hours a day, are not getting their moneys worth.

I'm holding out for Shah, to choose a settlement.


I don't know if VP is a settler who got married with a TC, nevertheless I think you 've been too harsh on him my friend. Let's admit he is generally a polite person.

On the other hand I did a little search in this forum VP was posting "partition" new topics en masse in the past....

He also likes to present you and BirKibrisli as lonely outdated dreamers. The situation IS NOT AT ALL like that.
You will find out how many TCs are like you when you visit yourself.
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Postby shahmaran » Wed Feb 07, 2007 11:31 pm

i dont know where Miltiades got that one from but i was not raised here, i studied university here yes, and i have recently graduated, i have not got any work here so far, apart from student jobs, and im not really planning to either, i will be back in Cyprus soon, if it doesnt work out then i am thinking about getting a Turkish passport and try my luck there also...

also i am pretty sure that i have seen VP say he would be up for unification under the right conditions so i dont think he is THAT much of a partitionist, and i think a lot of the people i know who are around my and your ages would aggree on something along that line, however grandparent generations would not want to see another Greek person again, and to be honest i cant blame nor try to argue with them..


ps. i think Lena is scared of me because she comes to London in secret :lol:
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Postby Pyrpolizer » Wed Feb 07, 2007 11:33 pm

Kikapu wrote:
Pyrpolizer wrote:Kikapu
If I may step in, Shah said he said many things under pressure. He corrected some things afterwards and I admired his honesty, and called him "my son", because he looks like my younger son.

NB. Miltiades said Shah was raised and did all his schooling in UK.I think Shah said it was true (I could be wrong though better he clarifies)



Yes, I know all that Pyrpolizer. I read almost everything that he has written. I too like him, because he is more open minded than others.

He'll be even better, after he meets with LENA: :wink:


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Postby Kikapu » Wed Feb 07, 2007 11:59 pm

Pyrpolizer wrote: I think you 've been too harsh on him my friend. Let's admit he is generally a polite person.

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In all honesty, I do not dislike VP. I have always viewed him as a brother, even after he tried to belittle me, for wanting to visit the RoC, because I consider all of Cyprus to be my birth place. I extended by brotherly reach to him, even though we did not agree on very many things. Hey, this happens in families, so I accepted that, but then he went overboard with the whole thing, so it was time to call him onto the "carpet", and I did.
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