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unification do greeks realy want it

Postby ken910 » Tue Feb 06, 2007 11:12 am

i was wondering do greeks realy want unification if so i would like to know some positive steps they have taken trying to achieve this goal, call me dumb some will call me prehistoric but i cant recall any , can some one help me on this matter i would realy like to know
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Postby joanna » Tue Feb 06, 2007 11:25 am

NO NO NO!!!! (from a true GC with roots on the other side)
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Postby ken910 » Tue Feb 06, 2007 11:31 am

then why they pretending they want to live with tcs
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Postby Alexios » Tue Feb 06, 2007 11:34 am

joanna wrote:NO NO NO!!!! (from a true GC with roots on the other side)


What do you propose then?
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Postby ken910 » Tue Feb 06, 2007 11:36 am

amicable seperation?
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Postby joanna » Tue Feb 06, 2007 11:45 am

Stay as we are. I dont realy understand what the problem is. I think we have all made our lives now, and all the refugees are settled. I know many and am one myself and i dont think anyone from the richest to the poorest would ever want to go over there again to live!. The only ppl that want re-unification are the poor TC's that are stuck over there with the Turks.
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Postby Alexios » Tue Feb 06, 2007 11:52 am

This is a very big issue Ken. Even if a fair percentage of both T/Cs and G/Cs would deep in their hearts prefer such a solution, atleast for G/C political parties, separation is not even a choice. Rather, it is anathema. Ofcourse, given that a de facto separation is already what appears to be a temporary solution, in time such calls for an agreed partition may gain more and more popular support and we may even hear some politicians in the South advocate such an idea. There are however certain practical problems with a amicable separation as you call it. What percentage of land will the T/C side be willing to give back?Who will compensate the people for lost properties on each side? Will the T/Cs be willing to give up their EU citizenship? etc etc...It's not as easy as it sounds..My opinion, is that separation in essence will be nothing better than double ENOSIS.The way it was planned long ago...
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Postby askimwos » Tue Feb 06, 2007 11:55 am

Why do you think the GCs have accepted that the solution will be along the lines of a bicomunal bizonal federation? Isn't this a big step towards a solution by a population that counts 82% of the island? How many countries do you know where 18% of the population is accepted to be an equal partner in the running of the country? Just stop a bit and think that the 82% of the population (or the great majority of that) accept that it is possible for just 9%+ of the population to have the power to stop what the remaining 91%- of the population want to do, be it in the form of taxation, development projects, laws etc.

Why is it that TCs compatriots don't see that this is a very big sacrifise that goes to show that GCs want the unification even though it means that a small % of the population will have that much power? What about the concessions about the TC statelet territory being way above 18% and close to 30%? What about the willingness to bear most of the economic cost of a solution? All the GCs want to say yes to a solution is to leave Turkey and Greece out of the equation so that All Cypriots are the only masters in their country.
Please guys just step a bit back and think whether Turkey would be happy to allow the same rights that the TCs will have in a solutions to the Kurdish population...or even whether you would even consider to accept such a solution if the TCs were 82% and the GCs were 18% of the population. Well your GCs compatriots accept that.. What else would you need to be convinced that the GCs really want a solution?
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Postby Viewpoint » Tue Feb 06, 2007 12:03 pm

joanna wrote:Stay as we are. I dont realy understand what the problem is. I think we have all made our lives now, and all the refugees are settled. I know many and am one myself and i dont think anyone from the richest to the poorest would ever want to go over there again to live!. The only ppl that want re-unification are the poor TC's that are stuck over there with the Turks.


Are you 100% sure about that? how many Tcs do you know personally?
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Postby cypezokyli » Tue Feb 06, 2007 12:23 pm

isnt the acceptance of BBF a step towards a solution ?
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