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Postby miltiades » Wed Feb 07, 2007 9:35 am

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Birkibrisli wrote:Dear Lena,

My generation was the first Cypriot generation whose innocence was taken away never to be returned by the Cyprus conflict. I have not forgotten anything,but have learned to forgive the previous generations for making our lives hell. We must make sure that at least the future generations can enjoy their childhood,and their innocence,and grow up as better human beings than our generation.This is why I strongly believe in a solution that will remove once and for all all possible sources of future conflict,and will allow for peace ,justice and compassion to grow in our homeland,the only one we have... :(


Thats what I said...we have to forgive and move on...we have to make sure that our children are going to have a better future ... But lots of people like VP...are not willing to do that. And the new generation if its like Shahmaran and Joanna...we will never live in one country peaceful and justice and compassion are going to be just simple words.

But Birkibrisli...you are really a man to imitate!!!


Lena have you never for 1 second considered that division maybe the solution, do you prefer the period between 1960 to 1974 or 1974 to 2007. The peaceful life we have on both sides is an indication that something is working right and people are not dieing everyday like Palestine and Iraq.

And what do you say to the 200 thousand Cypriots who were forced to abandon what was theirs and theirs alone , Fuck you ??
Very typical from a man who has sold his Cypriot soul to the Anatolians .
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Postby Viewpoint » Wed Feb 07, 2007 9:45 am

miltiades wrote:
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Birkibrisli wrote:Dear Lena,

My generation was the first Cypriot generation whose innocence was taken away never to be returned by the Cyprus conflict. I have not forgotten anything,but have learned to forgive the previous generations for making our lives hell. We must make sure that at least the future generations can enjoy their childhood,and their innocence,and grow up as better human beings than our generation.This is why I strongly believe in a solution that will remove once and for all all possible sources of future conflict,and will allow for peace ,justice and compassion to grow in our homeland,the only one we have... :(


Thats what I said...we have to forgive and move on...we have to make sure that our children are going to have a better future ... But lots of people like VP...are not willing to do that. And the new generation if its like Shahmaran and Joanna...we will never live in one country peaceful and justice and compassion are going to be just simple words.

But Birkibrisli...you are really a man to imitate!!!


Lena have you never for 1 second considered that division maybe the solution, do you prefer the period between 1960 to 1974 or 1974 to 2007. The peaceful life we have on both sides is an indication that something is working right and people are not dieing everyday like Palestine and Iraq.

And what do you say to the 200 thousand Cypriots who were forced to abandon what was theirs and theirs alone , Fuck you ??
Very typical from a man who has sold his Cypriot soul to the Anatolians .


Come live with us in the TRNC or accept compensation.
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Postby ken910 » Wed Feb 07, 2007 10:05 am

vp what youre suggesting would be too simple for millatidis he needs to have this cyprus problem conyitue for another 30 years otherwise he would have no forum like this to vent his hatred of all turks to him a good turk is a dead turk
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Postby humanist » Wed Feb 07, 2007 10:09 am

My observation is that the only reasons we do not have people dying everyday as they do in the Palestine/ Israeli war is that the Greek Cypriots have hope that they will return to their properties and thus individual rights and freedoms will be excercised again. I think if there was to be partition the story may be totaly different, I hope that I am wrong but I certainly would not like to be in Cyprus, in the event that was declared.

Furthermore, partition is not the best solution because you are living on land that belongs to someone else and that someone else wants it back and has the right to have it back. That would cause more conflict in the future.
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Postby joanna » Wed Feb 07, 2007 10:12 am

I agree with viewpoint on this, and i am from the other side!!. Whats done is done, if there was some form of punishment that we could give the Turks then im sure we'd do give it. Time has passed ppl have moved on, made new lives. I, my family, and all the others that i know and hear of every day, prefer things as they are. I for one would never even dream of going back over there if there was a solution, and would deffinately not want my children to live amongst Turks.
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Postby Viewpoint » Wed Feb 07, 2007 10:17 am

humanist wrote:My observation is that the only reasons we do not have people dying everyday as they do in the Palestine/ Israeli war is that the Greek Cypriots have hope that they will return to their properties and thus individual rights and freedoms will be excercised again. I think if there was to be partition the story may be totaly different, I hope that I am wrong but I certainly would not like to be in Cyprus, in the event that was declared.

Furthermore, partition is not the best solution because you are living on land that belongs to someone else and that someone else wants it back and has the right to have it back. That would cause more conflict in the future.


Would the Turkish Army have anything to do with everything being tranquil? I would hate to imagine what would happen if they were not around....Palestine number 2.
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Postby ken910 » Wed Feb 07, 2007 10:18 am

thanks 4 youre honest comments joanna wish we could get a lot more gc to say exactly what they mean many of them are afraid to say what they realy want i gues their worried about been harrased and presecuted
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Postby miltiades » Wed Feb 07, 2007 10:30 am

VP WROTE:

""""Come live with us in the TRNC or accept compensation."""""

VP , if 200 thousand G/Cs returned to live in the occupied part of Cyprus , as you so boringly write , the occupying army wont be that happy , so do try and talk sensibly , they will never be permitted to live in the part of Cyprus that you so proudly behold as the only legitimate republic of Cyprus !!!!
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Postby zan » Wed Feb 07, 2007 10:32 am

miltiades wrote:
Viewpoint wrote:
LENA wrote:
Birkibrisli wrote:Dear Lena,

My generation was the first Cypriot generation whose innocence was taken away never to be returned by the Cyprus conflict. I have not forgotten anything,but have learned to forgive the previous generations for making our lives hell. We must make sure that at least the future generations can enjoy their childhood,and their innocence,and grow up as better human beings than our generation.This is why I strongly believe in a solution that will remove once and for all all possible sources of future conflict,and will allow for peace ,justice and compassion to grow in our homeland,the only one we have... :(


Thats what I said...we have to forgive and move on...we have to make sure that our children are going to have a better future ... But lots of people like VP...are not willing to do that. And the new generation if its like Shahmaran and Joanna...we will never live in one country peaceful and justice and compassion are going to be just simple words.

But Birkibrisli...you are really a man to imitate!!!


Lena have you never for 1 second considered that division maybe the solution, do you prefer the period between 1960 to 1974 or 1974 to 2007. The peaceful life we have on both sides is an indication that something is working right and people are not dieing everyday like Palestine and Iraq.

And what do you say to the 200 thousand Cypriots who were forced to abandon what was theirs and theirs alone , Fuck you ??
Very typical from a man who has sold his Cypriot soul to the Anatolians .



The same thing you are offering me and thousands like me.........Sorry for all the inconvenience but let us live and forget the past. As I have said many times before Miltiades, the refugees do not have automatic right of return due to circumstances. The same circumstances that has taken something from all of us. The refugee problem is not the end all of our problems either. Not fuck you, but a very big SORRY.
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Postby Viewpoint » Wed Feb 07, 2007 11:10 am

miltiades wrote:VP WROTE:

""""Come live with us in the TRNC or accept compensation."""""

VP , if 200 thousand G/Cs returned to live in the occupied part of Cyprus , as you so boringly write , the occupying army wont be that happy , so do try and talk sensibly , they will never be permitted to live in the part of Cyprus that you so proudly behold as the only legitimate republic of Cyprus !!!!


GCs will never come live under the TRNC its our situation in reverse they do not want to live in a TC state so at most 50.000 will return if that...dont worry thet Turkish Army will also protect them. :wink:
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