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[Pyrpolizer]

Zan,

Do you accept there is a specific pattern of behaviour expressed by the majority of settlers yes or no?
Do you accept that this behaviour as expressed by the majority of settlers is the reason most of them live separated from TCs and in separate villages yes or no?
Do you accept the fact that the majority of settlers are BACKWARDS in all aspects of life, be it education, understanding of law, behaviour towards others etc?
Do you accept the fact that there are already too many clashes between the settlers and the TCs yes or no?

[Pyrpolizer]

As for your "great contribution" I think you are wasting everyones time.

[BirKibrisli]

If I am not wrong Joanna you are young as me and you are not Cypriot. Am I right? I thing I read in one of your posts that you are Greek girl. Right? You know sometimes…you have to live very close to the whole situation to understand the whole issue. I know that Greeks and Cypriots don’t have very good relationships with the Turks because of our history…but what I am not able to understand is why young people like you, me and Shahmaran are not able to build a new world and new relationships? For how many years do we have to keep that hater? I forced my self to understand older people…they way they think and the way they feel. They have memories and that’s very hard for them. But we don’t, we only learn what they told us, what they teach us and how they raised us up. But we supposed to have our feelings, our logical and we have to be able to build a new future for us and our families without hater, without wars…civilized!!! Is that so difficult for you? Why you call them barbarians? Do you really know anyone Turk? Did anyone harm you? And don’t tell me about our parents, relatives and countries. I am asking you as an individual person. In that part I agree with VP…you are racist! I am sorry for that especially because you are young!

Thank you for your kind words about me elsewhere in this post,Lena.
I was alive and living in the old walls of Nicosia in 1963 too.Which probably makes me ancient in your young eyes. Let me return the complement by saying that you are a mature and compassionate woman and probably too sensitive for your own happiness. I am glad young people like you exist in this crazy world.

[zan]

Zan,

Do you accept there is a specific pattern of behaviour expressed by the majority of settlers yes or no?

I have no idea what you are asking me here. Are you asking if they have a different culture or wipe their arses different to the rest of us. Well they are from a different country and have different ways and eat slightly different food but they breath the way we do.....Sorry I don't know what else to say to this open ended question.

Do you accept that this behaviour as expressed by the majority of settlers is the reason most of them live separated from TCs and in separate villages yes or no?



When I was in Cyprus I went and visited the area that we lived in before we were chased out of the country. It is was poor sector of Lefcosa and still is. This is like a council estate in England and where the settlers live because they are not as well off as the TCs them selves. All over the world this happens with immigrants and they tend to live in the same area as well.

Do you accept the fact that the majority of settlers are BACKWARDS in all aspects of life, be it education, understanding of law, behaviour towards others etc?

NO!

Do you accept the fact that there are already too many clashes between the settlers and the TCs yes or no?


I spent two weeks in Cyprus on my last visit and heard a few rumours and saw nothing. The rumours were of drunkard clashes between the settlers and the snobs of the North not wanting to go into the poor sector. I went there and it was more like visiting an area (as I said before) in say Hackney where people were not quite the clean cut and expensively dressed TCs and tourists but were very pleasant. I also know a teacher that works in the district and she is a respected part of the society and she has nothing but praise for the majority of these people but as always there is a criminal element.

[MR-from-NG]

Birkibrisli,

Are we still on? It will have to be between the 23rd to the 26th of Feb. If OK it is a condition we do not discuss politics, or hardly any. Instead we will discuss who you know in Sydney that are from my village of Ortakoy and what life is for them in Aussie-land. Agreed?

[BirKibrisli]

Birkibrisli,

Are we still on? It will have to be between the 23rd to the 26th of Feb. If OK it is a condition we do not discuss politics, or hardly any. Instead we will discuss who you know in Sydney that are from my village of Ortakoy and what life is for them in Aussie-land. Agreed?

We are still on if you want,Mrfromng...But I can't see how we can avoid talking about politics.I promise not to punch you if you don't punch me first.

I can do dinner Sunday 25th,or lunch or dinner on Monday 26th...

Looking forward to meeting you...

[zan]

You can always sit and stare at each other and maybe growl every now and then.....

[LENA]

AKEL

AKEL

Askimwos…the issue here is not AKEL!!!!!

Lena I know that the issue is not AKEL, the whole point was brought up while discussing Talat's U-turn and that there had been an agreement between the two parties in the past

Askimwos...you know our government is not AKEL...!!!! RoC is not AKEL....!!! GCs is not AKEL....!!!!

[LENA]

If I am not wrong Joanna you are young as me and you are not Cypriot. Am I right? I thing I read in one of your posts that you are Greek girl. Right? You know sometimes…you have to live very close to the whole situation to understand the whole issue. I know that Greeks and Cypriots don’t have very good relationships with the Turks because of our history…but what I am not able to understand is why young people like you, me and Shahmaran are not able to build a new world and new relationships? For how many years do we have to keep that hater? I forced my self to understand older people…they way they think and the way they feel. They have memories and that’s very hard for them. But we don’t, we only learn what they told us, what they teach us and how they raised us up. But we supposed to have our feelings, our logical and we have to be able to build a new future for us and our families without hater, without wars…civilized!!! Is that so difficult for you? Why you call them barbarians? Do you really know anyone Turk? Did anyone harm you? And don’t tell me about our parents, relatives and countries. I am asking you as an individual person. In that part I agree with VP…you are racist! I am sorry for that especially because you are young!

Thank you for your kind words about me elsewhere in this post,Lena.
I was alive and living in the old walls of Nicosia in 1963 too.Which probably makes me ancient in your young eyes. Let me return the complement by saying that you are a mature and compassionate woman and probably too sensitive for your own happiness. I am glad young people like you exist in this crazy world.

Thank you too for your kind words Birkibrisli...I just wanted to correct one of your comments. I am not sensitive only for my own happiness but for all of the Cypriots. I am not going to have lots of benefits(£) from all of that...but I do love my country...and I am scared about my children's future (my future children)!

[BirKibrisli]

Dear Lena,

My generation was the first Cypriot generation whose innocence was taken away never to be returned by the Cyprus conflict. I have not forgotten anything,but have learned to forgive the previous generations for making our lives hell. We must make sure that at least the future generations can enjoy their childhood,and their innocence,and grow up as better human beings than our generation.This is why I strongly believe in a solution that will remove once and for all all possible sources of future conflict,and will allow for peace ,justice and compassion to grow in our homeland,the only one we have...