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[shahmaran]

so we are not allowed to bring ppl from Turkey but you are allowed bring who ever you like?

someone please explain me that....

Shah,

You seem to forget, which one is the "real Cyprus" and which one is not. !

Which one has the laws of the land, and which one pretends to have the laws of the land.!

Is it the same, when you invite guests to your home, as suppose to, your neighbour forcing them on you, because they can. !

So,

Sounds EXTREMELY bigoted to me...

We are hosuemates, and you say i have to ask you to invite people over however, you can just bring who ever you want, so you obviously think that this is more your house than it is mine....thats what it is more like...

[BirKibrisli]

dont understand how does having a RoC passport make one a "real Cypriot", simply from the top of my head, i know at least 10 people who do have the RoC passport purely for travel purposes and are definately NOT up for unification, they are simply taking advantage of the RoC.

So according to what you are saying Bir, people like my grandparents who have bearly ever left the island and myself, who hold only a TRNC passport, are not "real Cypriots" but the ones that do hold a RoC passport and the ones, like yourself, who live abroad and want unification, are "true Cypriots" ?

I will quickly explain my notion of "True Cypriot" Shah. A True Cypriot is one who sees Cyprus as his/her motherland. He doesn't give a damn about other Cypriots' ethnic background or what language they speak or what god they worship. A True Cypriot is one who wants to share Cyprus with the rest of Cypriots,in a United Country based on democratic and human rights principles.Simple isn't it?

A Real Cypriot on the other hand is one who was born in Cyprus before 1974,or who has at least one parent who was born in Cyprus before 1974.
Don't worry,you are covered in this section...

[shahmaran]

in that case if i might be "out-voted" because of some chiense immigrants on the south then i rather have some turks on my side

it just doesnt make sense tho, either we are ALL Cypriots and ALL count as a whole, or we dont, you cant say GCs count as a whole, but TCs count only if they are "true and blood", is it only me who finds this ridiculous and unfair?

why should their immigrants be any more worthy then ours? is it because they are Turkish? because we got plenty of asians too, are they ok to stay? or is it because they are OURS and we should act like guests in our own island...

[BirKibrisli]

in that case if i might be "out-voted" because of some chiense immigrants on the south then i rather have some turks on my side

it just doesnt make sense tho, either we are ALL Cypriots and ALL count as a whole, or we dont, you cant say GCs count as a whole, but TCs count only if they are "true and blood", is it only me who finds this ridiculous and unfair?

why should their immigrants be any more worthy then ours? is it because they are Turkish? because we got plenty of asians too, are they ok to stay? or is it because they are OURS and we should act like guests in our own island...

Look at it this way,Shah...If a lot of Chinese (using your example) arrive in the RoC tomorrow(or tommorow I can never remember which for some reason!) and want to have their own independent state in west Cyprus guarded by 40,000 Chinese troops,they would not be welcome either.Do you get the point now?

[Viewpoint]

in that case if i might be "out-voted" because of some chiense immigrants on the south then i rather have some turks on my side

it just doesnt make sense tho, either we are ALL Cypriots and ALL count as a whole, or we dont, you cant say GCs count as a whole, but TCs count only if they are "true and blood", is it only me who finds this ridiculous and unfair?

why should their immigrants be any more worthy then ours? is it because they are Turkish? because we got plenty of asians too, are they ok to stay? or is it because they are OURS and we should act like guests in our own island...

It always been one law for Gcs and one law for us, they conveniently forget all the Russians and Pontiac's they have imported, lets send those back as well while we are at it, all those immigrants granted citizenship after 1974 can be sent just as they demand the settlers should go, what do you say?

[Viewpoint]

in that case if i might be "out-voted" because of some chiense immigrants on the south then i rather have some turks on my side

it just doesnt make sense tho, either we are ALL Cypriots and ALL count as a whole, or we dont, you cant say GCs count as a whole, but TCs count only if they are "true and blood", is it only me who finds this ridiculous and unfair?

why should their immigrants be any more worthy then ours? is it because they are Turkish? because we got plenty of asians too, are they ok to stay? or is it because they are OURS and we should act like guests in our own island...

Look at it this way,Shah...If a lot of Chinese (using your example) arrive in the RoC tomorrow(or tommorow I can never remember which for some reason!) and want to have their own independent state in west Cyprus guarded by 40,000 Chinese troops,they would not be welcome either.Do you get the point now?

So its ok if these people want to join the "RoC"? consider them people who we have been granted "RoC" citizenship pending a solution, do we also have that right? or is it exclusive to your GC brothers?

[miltiades]

dont understand how does having a RoC passport make one a "real Cypriot", simply from the top of my head, i know at least 10 people who do have the RoC passport purely for travel purposes and are definately NOT up for unification, they are simply taking advantage of the RoC.

So according to what you are saying Bir, people like my grandparents who have bearly ever left the island and myself, who hold only a TRNC passport, are not "real Cypriots" but the ones that do hold a RoC passport and the ones, like yourself, who live abroad and want unification, are "true Cypriots" ?

I will quickly explain my notion of "True Cypriot" Shah. A True Cypriot is one who sees Cyprus as his/her motherland. He doesn't give a damn about other Cypriots' ethnic background or what language they speak or what god they worship. A True Cypriot is one who wants to share Cyprus with the rest of Cypriots,in a United Country based on democratic and human rights principles.Simple isn't it?

A Real Cypriot on the other hand is one who was born in Cyprus before 1974,or who has at least one parent who was born in Cyprus before 1974.
Don't worry,you are covered in this section...

Spot on my Friend , true Cypriots love their country , all of it , and unlike VP who admits that he hates some Cypriots (G/Cs) but not the entire community he goes on to add !!! A true Cypriot wants all of Cyprus to call his country , wants no foreign troops , and recognises only Cypriots not majorities or minorities.

[Viewpoint]

dont understand how does having a RoC passport make one a "real Cypriot", simply from the top of my head, i know at least 10 people who do have the RoC passport purely for travel purposes and are definately NOT up for unification, they are simply taking advantage of the RoC.

So according to what you are saying Bir, people like my grandparents who have bearly ever left the island and myself, who hold only a TRNC passport, are not "real Cypriots" but the ones that do hold a RoC passport and the ones, like yourself, who live abroad and want unification, are "true Cypriots" ?

I will quickly explain my notion of "True Cypriot" Shah. A True Cypriot is one who sees Cyprus as his/her motherland. He doesn't give a damn about other Cypriots' ethnic background or what language they speak or what god they worship. A True Cypriot is one who wants to share Cyprus with the rest of Cypriots,in a United Country based on democratic and human rights principles.Simple isn't it?

A Real Cypriot on the other hand is one who was born in Cyprus before 1974,or who has at least one parent who was born in Cyprus before 1974.
Don't worry,you are covered in this section...

Spot on my Friend , true Cypriots love their country , all of it , and unlike VP who admits that he hates some Cypriots (G/Cs) but not the entire community he goes on to add !!! A true Cypriot wants all of Cyprus to call his country , wants no foreign troops , and recognises only Cypriots not majorities or minorities.

You may hate Denktas or Talat for what they stand for am I not allowed this freedom as well? to hate people not becuase of their ethnic origins but by what they are trying to do or the acts they perform.

Why is it so difficult to understand we have not lived in 1 Cyprus we have always been divided so all we know and love passionately is the TRNC, noway do I accept the south as representing me or my community, that is a state for GCs not TCs.

[growuptcs]

Viewpoint wrote:

You may hate Denktas or Talat for what they stand for am I not allowed this freedom as well? to hate people not becuase of their ethnic origins but by what they are trying to do or the acts they perform.

The Branch Davidians felt the same way about their false advertiser David Koresh as well.

[Pyrpolizer]

Let us get things straight here.
It is a different thing to have some 10% of the population foreigners among you without citizenship and different to have 150% of the population foreigners 2/3rds of which HAVE citizenship.

True the GCs host some 40,000 Pontians. This is 5% of their population. NONE has citizenship We also have another percentage foreigners about 10% but NOBODY has citizenship.

In the occupied the settlers who have CITIZENSHIP are equal to the number of TCs. And there is a great number of other foreigners without citizenship.

@Birkibrisli

I will reply to your post later today my friend..