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[Saint Jimmy]

It would seem that the server limits the output of a download stream. Using a download program like getright allows you to open multiple streams (upto 4 with the 'free' version) which speeds up the download by about 4 times - if you have a connection able to support that. Just thought it might be of some use to mention this.

Thanks erolz, but it would only be of some use if I knew what all that means
I couldn't do all that to save my life...

Thanx anyway, though

[Othellos]

the greek cypriots that died during the peace operation in 1974 died because of Greeks or Greek Cypriots.

And this is where you lose any credibility you may had until now, tcypriot.

O.

[tcypriot]

In December 1963, after the armed attacks against the Turkish Cypriots began, it was virtually impossible that the bicommunal in nature state organs to go on functioning because Turkish Cypriots had to pass through the Greek Cypriot Barricades to go to their jobs, even the office of the Turkish Cypriot Vice President was under attack.

But the Greek Cypriot Leadership,despite the non- presence of the Turkish Cypriot Nation in the organs of what now ceased to be Cyprus Republic, with the help of the militay superiority that forced the Turkish Cypriots to shelter in relatively safe ghettos measuring some 3 to 4 percent of the island of Cyprus, now were the sole rulers of the once-Cyprus Republic bicommunal organisation.

Greek Cypriot Leadership now in full control of the powers of the once Cyprus Republic organisation, which was and is a terrorist organisation/regime, for years continued using the powers of the bicommunal had to be organisation against the Turkish Cypriots, and even today, they, the terrorist regime, under the name of the once existing Cyprus Republic, use the powers of the occupied organisation in order to tighten the embargoes on our nation.

In 1965, Members of the Turkish Cypriot communal chamber which was not allowed to function, had a meeting with Clerides under the protection of the UN soldiers, where Mr Clerides rejected the Turkish Cypriot demands of not being prevented from making meetings of the Turkish Cypriot Communal Chamber(Parliament) on the basis that, Turkish Cypriots would be stopped from doing so by force, have they tried to do so without accepting the amendment proposal by the former president, now an evil religious leader, Makarios.
Later, the same year the Greek Cypriot Communal Chamber, passed a legislation putting into force an election system where the MPs and the President would be elected in a manner such that the possibility of the realisation of the legal political equality of the Turkish Cypriots, could no more in no way take place and the Vice Presidency position was abolished without the consent of the Turkish Cypriot Nation.Soon after, the Turkish Cypriot Communal Chamber was rendered useless by one sided resolutions by the Greek Cypriot Leadership.

Turkish Cypriots did not leave their homes because of an unknown reason; they were forced to become refugees by use of arms or simply by the fact that some turkish cypriot villages like Ayios Vasillios faced atrocities, where dozens of Turkish Cypriots were killed and burried into mass graves. A village where Turkish Cypriots composed half the population namely Kaimakli was occupied by greek cypriot terrorists and the villagers had to flee their homes.People of this village and many other Turkish Cypriot Villagers were forced to refuge and live in Tent-Villages throughout Turkish Cypriot Ghettos during the years of Genocide.

Are you saying to me that Turkish Cypriots left their homes, to leave in cold and muddy tent villages just because the turkish cypriot leadership told them to do so, no where in world would that happen without a prohetistic leadership power.

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Othello, i did not mean the community but the leadership.

[brother]

Actually turkish villages were burned down and in mixed villages only the tc homes were burned down forcing the occupants to flee.

There are many many foreign witness reports of the atrocities commited by EOKA who may i mention had a very active tassos(your current leader) as one of its members.

[turkcyp]

In December 1963, after the armed attacks against the Turkish Cypriots began, it was virtually impossible that the bicommunal in nature state organs to go on functioning because Turkish Cypriots had to pass through the Greek Cypriot Barricades to go to their jobs, even the office of the Turkish Cypriot Vice President was under attack.

But the Greek Cypriot Leadership,despite the non- presence of the Turkish Cypriot Nation in the organs of what now ceased to be Cyprus Republic, with the help of the militay superiority that forced the Turkish Cypriots to shelter in relatively safe ghettos measuring some 3 to 4 percent of the island of Cyprus, now were the sole rulers of the once-Cyprus Republic bicommunal organisation.

Greek Cypriot Leadership now in full control of the powers of the once Cyprus Republic organisation, which was and is a terrorist organisation/regime, for years continued using the powers of the bicommunal had to be organisation against the Turkish Cypriots, and even today, they, the terrorist regime, under the name of the once existing Cyprus Republic, use the powers of the occupied organisation in order to tighten the embargoes on our nation.

In 1965, Members of the Turkish Cypriot communal chamber which was not allowed to function, had a meeting with Clerides under the protection of the UN soldiers, where Mr Clerides rejected the Turkish Cypriot demands of not being prevented from making meetings of the Turkish Cypriot Communal Chamber(Parliament) on the basis that, Turkish Cypriots would be stopped from doing so by force, have they tried to do so without accepting the amendment proposal by the former president, now an evil religious leader, Makarios.
Later, the same year the Greek Cypriot Communal Chamber, passed a legislation putting into force an election system where the MPs and the President would be elected in a manner such that the possibility of the realisation of the legal political equality of the Turkish Cypriots, could no more in no way take place and the Vice Presidency position was abolished without the consent of the Turkish Cypriot Nation.Soon after, the Turkish Cypriot Communal Chamber was rendered useless by one sided resolutions by the Greek Cypriot Leadership.

Turkish Cypriots did not leave their homes because of an unknown reason; they were forced to become refugees by use of arms or simply by the fact that some turkish cypriot villages like Ayios Vasillios faced atrocities, where dozens of Turkish Cypriots were killed and burried into mass graves. A village where Turkish Cypriots composed half the population namely Kaimakli was occupied by greek cypriot terrorists and the villagers had to flee their homes.People of this village and many other Turkish Cypriot Villagers were forced to refuge and live in Tent-Villages throughout Turkish Cypriot Ghettos during the years of Genocide.

Are you saying to me that Turkish Cypriots left their homes, to leave in cold and muddy tent villages just because the turkish cypriot leadership told them to do so, no where in world would that happen without a prohetistic leadership power.

Please realize the truth, and accept the responsibility in breaking up the RoC constitutional order of 1960. The RoC you live in currently is not ruled under the same laws of 1960, which you never liked anyway. Hence teh 'Akritas Plan'.

[Alasya]

One of the reasons we aregue about the past and "who is responsible?" is because both T/C and G/C have been educated in a bias way and media on both sides compliments this by publishing information on what the other side has done wrong. If we keep argiung about the past, we will be forever arguing. Is it not better to talk about what kind of future we both want.

[brother]

True what you say but we would not be cypriots if we did not argue its instinct.

[insan]

One of the reasons we aregue about the past and "who is responsible?" is because both T/C and G/C have been educated in a bias way and media on both sides compliments this by publishing information on what the other side has done wrong. If we keep argiung about the past, we will be forever arguing. Is it not better to talk about what kind of future we both want.

We can't escape from our past. What you know is what you say. In every step we will take in order to go one step further to build up our future contains the knowledge and experience of the past. What factors have been taken into consideration by those who prepared the basis of Annan Plan. Ain't it our past? What makes us feel suspicious and even reject any proposals that contradicts the experience of the past. Even if they currently still give you the impression that not so many things have changed regarding the core point of the problem? The experience of past in light of the logical power of our brain. So let us both discuss on the issues of past, beside how we can overcome the difficulties for fair solution.

[Alasya]

however, if everybody pisses each other off in a discussion on history, then nobody will be in the mood for discussing the future.

[insan]

however, if everybody pisses each other off in a discussion on history, then nobody will be in the mood for discussing the future.

So let's say, people! Please don't piss each other off in a discussion either on history or future of Cyprus. Thta's the problem I think... Pissing off!