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[boulio]

I've heard that the life of this proud greek cypriots is under threat at the terrorist regime controlled south..[quote]

the same terrorist regime that issues turkish cypriots there passports

[tcypriot]

the greek cypriots that died during the peace operation in 1974 died because of Greeks or Greek Cypriots..

have you not kicked us out of the republic in 1963, forced us to live in enclaves, invite greeks to occupy cyprus and finally unite the island with greece, none of these would have happened..

and what you have to take into account is how many turkish cypriots and how many greek cypriots died between 1963 and 1974 you'll see that more than 1000 turkish cypriots lost their lives and there are hundreds of missing turkish cypriots but on the other hand until the beginning of the 20th july peace operation, no more than 100-200 greek cypriots died..So taking into account the fact that your population was 4 times ours,it makes 5000 turkish cypriots dead to every 100 greek cypriot...also you started all these, 1963-1974 and the intervention are all your fault so you cannot compare the number of dead with us..

Had your Greece not tried to make enosis, there'd be no intervention..

also dont forget that till the beginning of the *Peace operation, thousands of greek cypriots were killed by the GREEKS but greeks rather prefer to refer all the dead as if they died during the intervention...

*Peace operation: Tell me how many Turkish Cypriots died because of racist attacks between 1963 and 1974 and how many died after 1974, i can tell you 1000 to 0 so this makes it a peace operation

[Piratis]

Had the Ottomans not invaded Cyprus, none of this would have happened, therefore you started all these

So, if you want to play the game:

Who started first: The Turks. Had Ottomans not invaded Cyprus, nothing would have followed.

Who suffered most: The Greek Cypriots did. They suffered for 100s of years during the Ottomans, and then again during the Turkish invasion where we had over 6000 casualties, and even until today our refugees are refuse the right to return to their homes.

Killing 6000 people and making 200.000 refugees is a peace operation?

If we have done the same, killing 6000 TCs and sending 200.000 of them (= all of them), to Turkey, would you call it a peace operation? This would also stop the killings, right?

[tcypriot]

i'm not talking about what happened centuries ago, i'm talking about the things that took place a few decades ago and many people that witnessed those events are still alive..

also we, the turkish cypriots were not ruling the the ottoman empire, so you cannot blame us for what happened during the ottoman period.

[turkcyp]

Ohhh...

I can see there is another history debate going on here as well....

The strugle of our lives. The question of our lives...

"Who started it?".....

There is always one step back to trace back, and there will always be a tomorrow.

Tracing back and back only causes us to hate each other more, but focusing on the future may provide more peace and stability.

And please do not take this post out of its context and turn it into politics and reply me with a political statement. Not everything in life is about politics. I know we human beings, and especially Cypriots, have a tendency for scenarios, and politics, but look where it has taken us after all these years.

Take care everybody,

[Alexandros Lordos]

The download is chugging along at 2kbps ... maybe I will have it by tomorrow evening ...

[Piratis]

i'm talking about the things that took place a few decades ago and many people that witnessed those events are still alive..

So the 30 years from 74 until today are too recent, and everything that happened during the Ottomans is too old, and the only thing that matters is the 10 years that TC suffered and nothing else. Interesting approach.

Tracing back and back only causes us to hate each other more, but focusing on the future may provide more peace and stability.

I agree 100% with this. I always say we should leave the past behind and move ahead. But when some people try to present history in their own very skewed way, I unfortunately have no choice from stating some facts. I would be more than glad if we all simply say that we learned from our mistakes and we are now moving ahead and nobody is using the past as an excuse for current of future crimes.

[insan]

I agree 100% with this. I always say we should leave the past behind and move ahead.

There are people that while digging into past, also willing to move ahead. If some people wants to leave the past behind and move ahead; they do so. Expecting all others to do the same thing is not feasible.

But when some people try to present history in their own very skewed way, I unfortunately have no choice from stating some facts.

Considering some people's views skewed and defining yours as fact is just an big arrogance and not nothing else...

I would be more than glad if we all simply say that we learned from our mistakes and we are now moving ahead and nobody is using the past as an excuse for current of future crimes.

Saying "We are learned our past mistakes", does not mean that they really learned their mistakes. There are some who learned from their mistakes and there are some who believes what they had done was right. And even the ones who acknowledged their mistakes does not mean that they won't repeat it under different circumstances...

[uzan]

the greek cypriots that died during the peace operation in 1974 died because of Greeks or Greek Cypriots..

have you not kicked us out of the republic in 1963, forced us to live in enclaves, invite greeks to occupy cyprus and finally unite the island with greece, none of these would have happened..

and what you have to take into account is how many turkish cypriots and how many greek cypriots died between 1963 and 1974 you'll see that more than 1000 turkish cypriots lost their lives and there are hundreds of missing turkish cypriots but on the other hand until the beginning of the 20th july peace operation, no more than 100-200 greek cypriots died..So taking into account the fact that your population was 4 times ours,it makes 5000 turkish cypriots dead to every 100 greek cypriot...also you started all these, 1963-1974 and the intervention are all your fault so you cannot compare the number of dead with us..

Had your Greece not tried to make enosis, there'd be no intervention..

also dont forget that till the beginning of the *Peace operation, thousands of greek cypriots were killed by the GREEKS but greeks rather prefer to refer all the dead as if they died during the intervention...

*Peace operation: Tell me how many Turkish Cypriots died because of racist attacks between 1963 and 1974 and how many died after 1974, i can tell you 1000 to 0 so this makes it a peace operation

THANK YOU FOR STATING THE TRUTH NOTHING BUT THE TRUTH,god bless you.
Also be warned that this will fall on the deaf ears of GC.

[-mikkie2-]

What an utter load of bull you people are talking about here.

An argument can't be won so you all decide to revert to the nationalistic crap that has been peddled for years and years.

There is plenty of evidence to support the view that many thousands of people died during the invasion. It is also fact that Turkish soldiers systematically looted northern Cyprus (remember seeing footage of Turkish ships being loaded with loot?) and they systematically raped thousands of women. The number of abortions that were performed after the invasion are ample proof of this.

For you guys to condonethese actions during the invasion is quite sickening.