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How can we solve it? (keep it civilized)

Postby pitsilos » Mon Feb 05, 2007 4:19 pm

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Postby Viewpoint » Mon Feb 05, 2007 4:22 pm

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Viewpoint wrote:You are totally wrong we do not want to rid the island of GCs, you have just as much rights as we do to be here although you wanted to turn Cyprus to Greece and rid it of its TC population but we wont go there.


No VP this is your view, I as a Cypriot Greek have the same rights as you a Turkish Cypriot, the only difference in our views is that you believe the Turkish Cypriot community should have equal rights as a whole (50% power share) to the Greek Cypriot Community, that is undemocratic and basically an apartheid as the minority will be able to rule the majority. For you YOU should have equal political power to 4 GCs... so fundamentally your ideas is of Turkish domination on this island with the excuse of protecting yourselves from the butcher Greeks. Well wake up because YOU ARE A MINORITY and this is what you will be in the new Cypriot unified state. You will have minority rights eg. guarantees of eg. 20% of government jobs and guarantee of 20% of power but that will be your power... no more no less... we do not accept anything else


So if the 80% voted for enosis I would have to accept? if 80% voted for no ties with Turkey I would have to accept?

You really havent understood very much about what TCs want, if decisions are for the benefit of its people why should we object? we will all benefit, but if the effect on our community is negative dont you think we should have the right to say no?
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Postby pitsilos » Mon Feb 05, 2007 4:28 pm

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Postby Strahd » Mon Feb 05, 2007 4:32 pm

Viewpoint wrote:So if the 80% voted for enosis I would have to accept? if 80% voted for no ties with Turkey I would have to accept?

You really havent understood very much about what TCs want, if decisions are for the benefit of its people why should we object? we will all benefit, but if the effect on our community is negative dont you think we should have the right to say no?


Believe me i understand what you want, I can see what you want every day when I look on Pentadaktylos... so stop talking bullshit and talk real!

things are not that simple... decisions that has to do with the establishment of the Republic of Cyprus need to be agreed between the two communities... I told you you would get 20% of the parliament, but not everything goes out in simple analogy... even in single ethnic states like Greece and Italy this does not happen... but anyway in a company of 10 you are just 2, can you grasp that????
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Postby pitsilos » Mon Feb 05, 2007 4:34 pm

So if the 80% voted for enosis I would have to accept? if 80% voted for no ties with Turkey I would have to accept?


you are so predictable. do you honestly think this is a vaild argument? more propaganda shit from all 3 of yous :lol:

and you wonder as to why people stopped taking you seriously

just on a side note, ever tried to post in the joke section? i guarantee you'll get one of a helluva more laughs.
starting with me, just for encouragement purposes :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:
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Postby Viewpoint » Mon Feb 05, 2007 4:35 pm

Strahd wrote:
Viewpoint wrote:So if the 80% voted for enosis I would have to accept? if 80% voted for no ties with Turkey I would have to accept?

You really havent understood very much about what TCs want, if decisions are for the benefit of its people why should we object? we will all benefit, but if the effect on our community is negative dont you think we should have the right to say no?


Believe me i understand what you want, I can see what you want every day when I look on Pentadaktylos... so stop talking bullshit and talk real!

things are not that simple... decisions that has to do with the establishment of the Republic of Cyprus need to be agreed between the two communities... I told you you would get 20% of the parliament, but not everything goes out in simple analogy... even in single ethnic states like Greece and Italy this does not happen... but anyway in a company of 10 you are just 2, can you grasp that????


Yes of course "I grasp that", but you havent really answered my question, can the 80% agree enosis? plus why are you so angry, you should calm down before posting?
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Postby Viewpoint » Mon Feb 05, 2007 4:36 pm

pitsilos wrote:
So if the 80% voted for enosis I would have to accept? if 80% voted for no ties with Turkey I would have to accept?


you are so predictable. do you honestly think this is a vaild argument? more propaganda shit from all 3 of yous :lol:

and you wonder as to why people stopped taking you seriously

just on a side note, ever tried to post in the joke section? i guarantee you'll get one of a helluva more laughs.
starting with me, just for encouragement purposes :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:


cut the crap and try giving a straight answer for a change?
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Postby Strahd » Mon Feb 05, 2007 4:48 pm

Viewpoint wrote:Yes of course "I grasp that", but you havent really answered my question, can the 80% agree enosis? plus why are you so angry, you should calm down before posting?


I am not angry, I am tired of your bullshit, that's why do not try any of your tricks you won't get any back, I will speak clean and straight.

In a democratic country the minority is a minority meaning that unfortunately because it is not the majority it will never be able to rule. However for matters as such that you are describing above it is required for more than just the plain majority to agree. It has to be the majority from all communities separately. However these things are very limited to protection of human rights and of course the provisioning of security to all members of a multi-ethnic society like Cyprus EQUALLY. Otherwise you have a time bomb in your hands...

So to wrap it up I will reply to your question with another question, How do you think that a 50% power share of plain analogy would protect you from Enosis? In that case of all we need is one of your MPs to agree and bingo you are now a Greek citizen.
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Postby Viewpoint » Mon Feb 05, 2007 5:01 pm

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So to wrap it up I will reply to your question with another question, How do you think that a 50% power share of plain analogy would protect you from Enosis? In that case of all we need is one of your MPs to agree and bingo you are now a Greek citizen.


Thank you for toning it down, I think we maybe in agreement, in answer to your question you are right but the fact that we have that 1 is important to us...the number of individuals representatives is not important to me they can be 80GCs and 20TCs but if the issue effects one community negatively then the community concerned should have more weight, if on the issue of enosis all GC reps votes yes the at least eg 10 TCs reps should agree, if they do then we all become Greek citizens as you say, what is important for us is to have a say and not have purely a GC state where GCs decide everything about our future. Now do you understand what I am saying?
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Postby Viewpoint » Mon Feb 05, 2007 5:05 pm

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