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Brussels defends Cyprus rights in oil row with Turkey

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Postby shahmaran » Sat Feb 03, 2007 4:27 pm

no they rather fuck you instead seems like :lol:
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Postby G.Man » Sat Feb 03, 2007 7:15 pm

shahmaran wrote::lol: yes that too, but what about the rights of the TRNC?

we cant exactly wait around for the RoC to defend it for us now can we?


But you have no rights to anything that isnt in "your" territorial waters..

If you were part of RoC then that would be a different matter..

I am sure selling up and moving to the south is a viable option..

Unlike the GC's who own land in the north, you have the ability to sell your land and buy south..

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Postby the_snake_and_the_crane » Sat Feb 03, 2007 8:13 pm

no they rather fuck you instead seems like


Always thought Talat looked gay - no thanks, I dont bite no pillow.
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Postby shahmaran » Sat Feb 03, 2007 9:22 pm

the_snake_and_the_crane wrote:
no they rather fuck you instead seems like


Always thought Talat looked gay - no thanks, I dont bite no pillow.


you might not have a choice afterall :lol: :lol:
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Postby humanist » Sat Feb 03, 2007 10:24 pm

firstly the trnc has no right, those turkish cypriots who wish to better themselves economically can move to the south as they are free to do so anytime they like. when the trnc stops violating the human rights of those people they forced out of their homes then perhaps the turkish speaking cypriots will have benefits to gain from being citizens of the united cyprus.

secondly in view of turkey's n trnc's current threats and their behaviour in the past couple of weeks , it may be in the interests of the greek speaking cypriots that we gat compensation on properties and let them have the north. the turkish cypriot population are proving to be more of a cost to cyprus than not. let them kindly give back their eu passports and citizen identity cards and let them go on their merry way.
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Postby shahmaran » Sat Feb 03, 2007 11:10 pm

i think if TRNC would be allowed to do its own thing, most people would not bother with the RoC passport at all...
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Postby Viewpoint » Sat Feb 03, 2007 11:31 pm

shahmaran wrote:i think if TRNC would be allowed to do its own thing, most people would not bother with the RoC passport at all...


I agree, the TRNC should give back GC property or compensate those that do not want to live in the north via the property commission and we should all go our separate ways.

Then the GCs wont have to share power equally and we wont have to endure GC dominance.
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Postby askimwos » Sat Feb 03, 2007 11:49 pm

shahmaran wrote:i think if TRNC would be allowed to do its own thing, most people would not bother with the RoC passport at all...


So Shahraman TCs dont care about the RoC passports, right?
What about all those thousands of TCs students that run from the first moment to issue RoC passports so as to not pay fees in UK niversities? I myself took several TC friends to the RoC High Commision in London to get them their RoC passport.
What about the thousands of TCs visiting hospitals in the south? I was reading an article yesterday saying that out of the 40 babies in the intensive care unit for premature babies in Makario Hospital 16 were TCs. And what about the 10-15k of TCs that work in the south? Dont forget that in the years after the invation several thousands of families had to live with just one parent cause the men of the familiy went to the arab countries to find work and send money back home. I used to see my father just a couple of times every year from the age of 2 to 13. The same happened with all my nefews and nieces (8 families in all).

Are these enough? I say no and I would like to see more happening, however, what you are asking for trnc to be recognise is a no go area for the RoC - this will just legalise what Turkey is trying to achieve.

I can understand the TCs fear of being dominated by the GCs, the fear of maybe losing their identity. That is why the majority of GCs accept a federal solution, and are prepared to share the island with TCs. But again this is with TCs not Turkey and TCs need to understand this as well. Sadly the TCs community have not managed yet to tell Turkey to get lost while the greatest majority of GCs have done so in an indirect way with the case of Greece. The great majority of GCs consider Greece as a friendly country, maybe not as any country in the world but that's about it. No GC will allow to be dictated by Greece on any issue that concerns Cyprus. The question is can the TCs compatriots do the same?
Now as far as the oil is concerned I am not sure what the outcome of the whole issue is going to be. Turkey really can do very few things about it. Here you have got a RoC in the EU, Turkey trying to get into the EU, Turkey's economy not that strong to sustain the blow of a potential conflict, the potential oil findings being in the south coast and a number of big companies trying to get their hands on it (companies = foreign goverment decisions). Pretty tough for Turkey on this one. I just hope that Tpap plays it wisely for once and include TCs in the whole issue, and maybe create a fund to put say 20-25% of any gains that will be managed by a committe incuding TCs. The fund may be used to develop the infrustructure in the north or be held until the problem is solved and then given to the TC federal statelet. How about this for a gesture of goodwill?
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Postby Pyrpolizer » Sat Feb 03, 2007 11:51 pm

@VP

Only the land and the properties of GCs at the nortern part are nearly 4 trillion Cyprus pounds.
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Postby Pyrpolizer » Sun Feb 04, 2007 12:05 am

wrote: Sadly the TCs community have not managed yet to tell Turkey to get lost while the greatest majority of GCs have done this with Greece. The great majority of GCs consider Greece as a friendly country, maybe not any country but that's about it. No GC will allow to be dictated by Greece on any issue that concerns Cyprus. The question is can the TCs compatriots do the same?


They can’t my friend.The same way we couldn’t do it until 1974. It needs a major catastrophy against the TCs caused by Turkey, to enable them get rid of them. We got rid of Greece after they caused us a major catastrophy in 1974
If you read the Cyprus Conflict Web site you will see that by 1972 everything was agreed between the GCs and the TCs. However Makarios couldn’t proceed as he was afraid of Athens.
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