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[humanist]

Turkey off and what would Turkey Do If Turkish Speaking Cypriots Decided to go against Turkey and Unify Cyprus thus Turkish Cypriots would become EU citizens and share ecomonic development.

[zan]

We tried with the Anan Plan and the RoC said OXI!

[shahmaran]

I love the way we go around in circles in this forum....

[humanist]

No Zan you didn't try, you didn't try to piss turkey off. with the AP there would have been turkish military presence on the island and not all refugees would have had the right to return. you still want to identify as turks rather than cypriots and that is why the AP got a big fat NO. remember turkish cypriots have more freedom in cyprus that greek speaking cypriots. any and many turkish cypriots can choose to live anywhere they like on the island and possess equal rights as any other cypriot whether be greek, maronite or jewish. may i suggets that as a community you have not reahed an level of maturity and a sense of cypriotness, that is why the AP flopped. cypriotness = fairness and justice. boot the turks return the lands and then you will reap what you sow, and i imagine there would be alot in the next few years $400 billion that is double the national budget for 50 years. the choice is yours my friend

[Viewpoint]

No Zan you didn't try, you didn't try to piss turkey off. with the AP there would have been turkish military presence on the island and not all refugees would have had the right to return. you still want to identify as turks rather than cypriots and that is why the AP got a big fat NO. remember turkish cypriots have more freedom in cyprus that greek speaking cypriots. any and many turkish cypriots can choose to live anywhere they like on the island and possess equal rights as any other cypriot whether be greek, maronite or jewish. may i suggets that as a community you have not reahed an level of maturity and a sense of cypriotness, that is why the AP flopped. cypriotness = fairness and justice. boot the turks return the lands and then you will reap what you sow, and i imagine there would be alot in the next few years $400 billion that is double the national budget for 50 years. the choice is yours my friend

You are counting your chickens before they hatch, strike oil first then celebrate, who knows we may find our own oil before you.

[humanist]

I am not celebrating VP, but your response is not unsurprising one either. However I will not stand back and hear turkey threaten war and not say anything, it is this lack of not saying anything that has gotten our world to where it is today.

Like I said congratulations if you do and not only congratulation I hope that you do. Firstly because I want to see turkish cypriots prosper (that is if turkey allows you to do so) and secondly on a more selfish reason perhaps turkey will stop its bullying threats of war on cyprus and leave us alone.

Unlike you VP I don't wish that you have no oil because we may not. if you do that is great for you.

This is not about the oil, it's about the threats of war. That is unacceptable and they are taken as fact. I hae alsready lost an uncle and most of my cousins live in Cyprus and I would not want to dea lwith more losses.

[Viewpoint]

I am not celebrating VP, but your response is not unsurprising one either. However I will not stand back and hear turkey threaten war and not say anything, it is this lack of not saying anything that has gotten our world to where it is today.

Like I said congratulations if you do and not only congratulation I hope that you do. Firstly because I want to see turkish cypriots prosper (that is if turkey allows you to do so) and secondly on a more selfish reason perhaps turkey will stop its bullying threats of war on cyprus and leave us alone.

Unlike you VP I don't wish that you have no oil because we may not. if you do that is great for you.

This is not about the oil, it's about the threats of war. That is unacceptable and they are taken as fact. I hae alsready lost an uncle and most of my cousins live in Cyprus and I would not want to dea lwith more losses.

I agree with you Turkey has no rights over oil that GCs find in the south and I dont think she actually said war but any sort of threats are out of line.

I have stated earlier that I wish Gcs good luck with their oil, if they find it it shoudl be all their nothing to do with us but we to should follow your example and find our own to support nad strengthen the TRNC.

I am truely sorry about your losess I wish I could turn back the clock but unfortunately no one can.

[humanist]

mate, i don't want you to apologise, what is done is done, but people have died on both sides so at least lets not allow their deaths to go in vein, lets all of us grow more accepting of one another and lets find a solution to this pbloody problem, because let me tell you my friend the only people whop suffer are the working class on both sides. i believe that cyprus is your country too and that if there are benefits from oil then it should be shared, but not whilst the trnc is as is, not whilst it is built on he illegal occupation of people's property and certainly not whilst it is run by turkey, because i assure you that the everyday turkish cypriot will see not $ out of any oil profits whilst turkey is involved.

VP i have voiced my beliefs many time on this forum, believe it or not I have nothing against tuurkish cyp's not even tose peple occupying property they have to live somewhere and i certainly feel for people in relation to economic isolation, however when it come to turkey i have very little respect for its government and its policies. and you know what my friend, i despise turkey even more for creating a state that turkish cypriots are loosing their identity and that they have had to leave cyprus for other lands because turkey let them down. if turkey had the interests of turkish cypriots at heart then they should have been as well off as those peple in instanbul and ankara and not less, certainly not by finding every poor person and bringing them into cyprus so that they can push the turkish speaking cypriots to the side. make of this as you wish but that is my true belief about this whole situation.

[zan]

No Zan you didn't try, you didn't try to piss turkey off. with the AP there would have been turkish military presence on the island and not all refugees would have had the right to return. you still want to identify as turks rather than cypriots and that is why the AP got a big fat NO. remember turkish cypriots have more freedom in cyprus that greek speaking cypriots. any and many turkish cypriots can choose to live anywhere they like on the island and possess equal rights as any other cypriot whether be greek, maronite or jewish. may i suggets that as a community you have not reahed an level of maturity and a sense of cypriotness, that is why the AP flopped. cypriotness = fairness and justice. boot the turks return the lands and then you will reap what you sow, and i imagine there would be alot in the next few years $400 billion that is double the national budget for 50 years. the choice is yours my friend

Why not ask us to cut off an arm or a leg. Look just because you say you want to get rid of Greece as your motherland does not mean we have to do the same. There is Turkish blood running through my veins and I want to stay loyal to it. We had the chance to breed another race of Cypriot in 1960 and some prat in a beard fucked it up. Then some other moron came along and made it worse. Turkey has a vested interest in Cyprus and the sooner the GCs stop using us like the British did to get rid of them the sooner we can start talking like adults to one another. The problem is just that in what you say. You guys don't see us as adults or as equals and are always talking down to us in the manner you are above. We do not take that shit anymore. If you have a problem with \Turkey then you face them yourselves knowing that we are with them. Stop talking down to us and we might just take you seriously. The donkeys are long gone my friend. We are fully equipped adults now.

[humanist]

i am not talking to you as a child, i am talking as cypriot where turkey does not have a place. and i am rather confused as to what you want, if you like turkey and want to be turkish that is fine i am sure they have an immigration policy. you can still be turk and live in a fre cyprus too. may be not now but once a solution is reached you can live in cyprus and still feel your turkish blood. but do it legally and fair.