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[humanist]

firstly Turkey is in violation of human rights not only of Cypriots

secondly she contiues to threaten human rights

thirdly she is a bully in the middle east and mediteranian region

fourthly she is refusing to obey EU agreements

I don't think this shows a level of integrty, trust and development to warrant EU membership. Perhaps the EU can now make a correct assessment of Turkey's imaturity and lack of substantiated eveidence that there is willingness to change and be part of the team.

"I SAY NO TO WAR THREATS FROM TURKEY - JUSTICE FOR CYPRUS"

I wonder if the UK & US will act on such threats of Terrorism? Will you Mr Bush & Mr Blair?

[pitsilos]

turkey was never ready for the eu. only after a lot of arm twisting from the us, the eu gave them a date.

people are not that stupid mate.

[humanist]

oh I don't know about that my friend. There are some stupid people around and sometimes they happen to be politicians with power.

[shahmaran]

call me dellusional, but i seriously think that it would be in the EU's best interest to have Turkey on their side rather than anyone elses, so they should stop screwing around by trying to take advantage of its poor economy and ethusiasm to become a member...

i personally think that Turkey should tell the EU to go to hell instead of putting up with their bullshit, on a less serious note, i think Turkey would loose her "touch" if she ever became a member and i would hate to see her turning into another dulled EU country...

[pitsilos]

shahmaran, the eu wants to become a bit more than a trading block.

turkey where she is today would take 50 years to catch the eu, and that if the eu stood still. now i don't say this in hate, but as an observation.

turkeys economy is in deep shit as we speak.

1... she has the 2nd highest imf loan, and you show me any other country that recovered after the imf
2...turkeys cheap labour is under pressure from china as we speak. i spend a lot of time in china, best part of 10 years and i can tell you turkey is importing more and more.

now you think the eu is ready to hand over the crown jewels to turkey in 15 years? it has nothing to do with a christian club.

and to be tottaly honest, the army doesn't want turkey in the eu regardless what they say. how could they they are the defenders of securalism. a turkey in the eu, would mean an end to keeping islamists under control. they would enjoy a lot more freedoms that they do today.

on another point is the kurd issue.

[humanist]

Turkey lacks ethical and moral values on the level of humanity to this end she is not ready to enter the eu.

[shahmaran]

Turkey lacks ethical and moral values on the level of humanity to this end she is not ready to enter the eu.

thats a complete matter of opinion!

im sorry but the EU has only recently started to deal with radical islamic crazy mofos and i can already see their morals and ethics and beloved understanding of freedom changing, Turkey has been dealing with these people for a long time and we are more than willing to give up some rights and freedom to stop these bastards from ruling our country! and i say "our" because Istanbul is liturally my second home.

i rather see the army take over than see that asshole erbakan become a president and walk into the palace with his head-covered wife only to sell the country to the arabs!

[humanist]

it is a matter of opinion, however turkeys innability to comply with the law has been shown to be a major block for her advancement in the eu's political strategic n economic direction

first the trade agreement that has caused the negotiations to stop

secondly threats on war on a nation that belongs to the eu and a state that turkey is meant to respect and become part of the same identity

[shahmaran]

well like i said its a matter of opinion, i think you will find that any nation is willing to turn a blind eye to certain things if it ever came to a certain degree, and turkey has been dealing with illitirate radical islamists, kurdish and armenian separatists terror groups for a LONG time, everyone was blaming us years ago when we tried to ban the headscarf and look at France now, we had to change our entire education system into a compulsory 8 year programme in order to stop these fools from choosing the kuran schools over propper education system, these are just a few examples, but my point is that Turkey had to take radical measures many times in order to deal with such people even if it means to be going against its own ideologies.

Ataturks vision was to turn turkey into a european-like country rather than a backward islamic country like the others, but its hard to do so when more than half of the country is uneducated and wants to be backward and a lot of them want sheria laws. some people are just not ready for freedom and some european/american muslims are prooving just that!

its hard to play the nice and fair guy to the EU when you have so many people who are ready to axe you down at any given chance...

[pitsilos]

well like i said its a matter of opinion, i think you will find that any nation is willing to turn a blind eye to certain things if it ever came to a certain degree, and turkey has been dealing with illitirate radical islamists, kurdish and armenian separatists terror groups for a LONG time, everyone was blaming us years ago when we tried to ban the headscarf and look at France now, we had to change our entire education system into a compulsory 8 year programme in order to stop these fools from choosing the kuran schools over propper education system, these are just a few examples, but my point is that Turkey had to take radical measures many times in order to deal with such people even if it means to be going against its own ideologies.

Ataturks vision was to turn turkey into a european-like country rather than a backward islamic country like the others, but its hard to do so when more than half of the country is uneducated and wants to be backward and a lot of them want sheria laws. some people are just not ready for freedom and some european/american muslims are prooving just that!

its hard to play the nice and fair guy to the EU when you have so many people who are ready to axe you down at any given chance...

all those highlights don't sound like a cypriot from cyprus to me but rather from a turk from turkey.

you gotta have to start thinking you are a cypriot first then whatever and who cares.