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Postby zan » Sat Feb 03, 2007 8:07 pm

Jerry wrote:Just suppose there turned out to be no oil south of Cyprus but loads just off the the north coast, would the TCs and Turkey squabble over who it belonged to? Would the TCs threaten Turkey with war? Would the TCs offer the GCs a share their oil? Would The GCs help defend the TCs against mainland oil pirates, the mind boggles!

Seriously though, what the hell has Cypriot oil got to do with Turkey. If the TRNC considers itelf an independent country how can it claim rights over the ROC's oil assets. It may be of concern to the TRNC but where in the Treaty of Guarantee is Turkey given the right to intervene in offshore mineral rights?



Maybe if the RoC recognises the TRNC/KKTC quickly they can cut out Turkey..........Alle mon cheri, alle!
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Postby Jerry » Sat Feb 03, 2007 8:20 pm

Zan, I think the ROC would be happy to embrace the TCs in the TRNC but not the settlers and this is the main problem to unification as I see it. The population in the north has been illegally expanded and "corrupted" by the inlfux of outsiders. I don't see any chance of Turkey ever leaving Cyprus even if the TCs demanded they leave, its quite clear to me that the "Turkification" of the north was/is a deliberate move to maintain mainland infuence.
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Postby reportfromcyprus » Sat Feb 03, 2007 8:23 pm

That's...allez :)

Allez, mon cher, allez.

Or allez, ma cherie, in the feminine case.
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Postby reportfromcyprus » Sat Feb 03, 2007 8:44 pm

shahmaran wrote:pitsilos, you have put us into this situation, if you want us to love you more than we love Turkey, then start changin the record, but if you think you are going to force us into joining you by denying us our freedom and our share of the island, then you will have problems, and if you try to act like we dont exist when such matters are concerned then you will have even bigger problems, afterall if our "asses" belongs to Turkey, then what is meant to belong to us also belongs to Turkey too, so stop acting so shocked at the responses you get about the oil. Infact its in the RoC's best interest to start making up with us, instead of trying to force us into submission.

its as simple as that...


Simple, it ain't. My observation on the oil issue is that human nature never changes. Greed will always lead to hubris. Hubris will always lead to a downfall, and so it goes. The funniest thing is that everyone always thinks they're 100% right and there's never a niche for doubt. Well, to paraphrase Hamlet, alas poor Yorick, at the end of the day, we're all screwed, and that's life, what can you do?
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Postby Viewpoint » Sat Feb 03, 2007 8:59 pm

Jerry wrote:Just suppose there turned out to be no oil south of Cyprus but loads just off the the north coast, would the TCs and Turkey squabble over who it belonged to? Would the TCs threaten Turkey with war? Would the TCs offer the GCs a share their oil? Would The GCs help defend the TCs against mainland oil pirates, the mind boggles!

Seriously though, what the hell has Cypriot oil got to do with Turkey. If the TRNC considers itelf an independent country how can it claim rights over the ROC's oil assets. It may be of concern to the TRNC but where in the Treaty of Guarantee is Turkey given the right to intervene in offshore mineral rights?


Totally agree, if the GCs are clever enough to go find oil on the south side of the island we cannot claim to have rights as well, thats theirs and the thing to do is wish them the best of luck.

What we TCs need to do is follow their example and look for our own oil in the northern part of the sea which we can extract and benefit the TRNC.
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Postby reportfromcyprus » Sat Feb 03, 2007 9:03 pm

Viewpoint wrote:
Jerry wrote:Just suppose there turned out to be no oil south of Cyprus but loads just off the the north coast, would the TCs and Turkey squabble over who it belonged to? Would the TCs threaten Turkey with war? Would the TCs offer the GCs a share their oil? Would The GCs help defend the TCs against mainland oil pirates, the mind boggles!

Seriously though, what the hell has Cypriot oil got to do with Turkey. If the TRNC considers itelf an independent country how can it claim rights over the ROC's oil assets. It may be of concern to the TRNC but where in the Treaty of Guarantee is Turkey given the right to intervene in offshore mineral rights?


Totally agree, if the GCs are clever enough to go find oil on the south side of the island we cannot claim to have rights as well, thats theirs and the thing to do is wish them the best of luck.

What we TCs need to do is follow their example and look for our own oil in the northern part of the sea which we can extract and benefit the TRNC.


:) Oh VP, what a wicked wicked thought, that would put the fox in the henhouse, good and proper.
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Postby zan » Sun Feb 04, 2007 2:18 am

reportfromcyprus wrote:That's...allez :)

Allez, mon cher, allez.

Or allez, ma cherie, in the feminine case.



Give it a rest RFC I am just about managing with English...... :lol:
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Postby humanist » Sun Feb 04, 2007 3:10 am

Jerry the RoC cannot be so cut and dry about the fate of settlers, as someone else on this forum who i respect for their honesty has pointed oput before they too are human beings, and some of them have been living in cyprus for many yearsthey have lives in cyprus we cannot just say they are out and that is the end if the story. the UN needs to set up independent committee to look at the settler issue on individual basis and turkey needs to tke some responsibility for assisting these people especaially thse who will return back to turkey.
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Postby LENA » Sun Feb 04, 2007 5:16 am

shahmaran wrote:we are TURKISH CYPRIOTS and we are still a part of this island


Ok what it have to do with matters in TC favor your country is TRNC...if it have to do with matters against TCs we are one country! Especially in economical matters. If we say that you have to share country you are saying that your country is TRNC and you dont recognise the RoC. If we discuss about oil and money you are part of that island....ok!!!

zan wrote:
reportfromcyprus wrote:That's...allez :)

Allez, mon cher, allez.

Or allez, ma cherie, in the feminine case.



Give it a rest RFC I am just about managing with English...... :lol:


Why you was upset Zan ... its just free French lessons...when they offer you something just take it and say thanks!!!!
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Postby pitsilos » Sun Feb 04, 2007 6:06 am

zan would rather snatch it :lol:
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