Cyprus-Forum.com

[Eliko]

miltiades, I didn't know George Michael was VIOLENT and EVIL, where did you get that information from?.

[miltiades]

Eliko , are you taking the piss , George "Poofter" Michael was one of the guests at Michael Barrymore's party when a young man was drowned in the swimming pool , after being abused by sexual perverts .

[shahmaran]

see if it was in the "free world" thoose bloody "poofters" would have no doubt got the electric chair

[cypezokyli]

this is from one of the most serious political journals.... le monde diplomatique

do make an effort to read it..... its educational....

http://mondediplo.com/2007/01/05hamas

some parts :

THE failure to form a Palestinian coalition government again raises the question of why Hamas persists, despite considerable pressure at home and abroad, in refusing to recognise Israel officially and explicitly. The first answer, which is rarely discussed, is that Hamas is convinced that recognition would be a pointless concession.

It has not forgotten that for decades the international community pressured the Palestine Liberation Organisation (PLO) and Fatah, both secular bodies, to make the same concession: they were given nothing in return, neither a Palestinian state nor a capital in East Jerusalem. Worse, Israel did not accept any responsibility for the Palestinian exodus of 1947-49 nor did it recognise the right of return (or the entitlement to compensation) of some 5 million refugees.

read that miltiadis....especially for someone who comes from a country with reffuggees

(researcher) Hroub has analysed in detail three key documents published by Hamas since the charter: its autumn 2005 election manifesto, Change and Reform; its March 2006 draft programme for a government of national unity; and the government programme presented by the Palestinian prime minister, Ismail Haniyeh, to the new parliament on 27 March 2006. Hroub points out that Hamas is now a different organisation from the Hamas that took shape at the beginning of the first intifada in December 1987.

According to Hroub, Hamas now claims to be concerned about political freedom: freedom of expression, press and association; pluralism; the separation of powers; and due electoral process. It also wants to build a proper civil society and uphold minority rights. Between the first and third documents, the number of religious references decreases and the theme of armed struggle disappears almost completely (3) to make room for matters of governance and civil reform. There is also a noticeable change towards the “two states for two peoples” solution and in the attitude of Hamas towards international agreements on Palestine.

Western media and government bodies have not publicised any of these documents. Hroub notes that of the 13 items in the manifesto addressing legislative and judicial policy, only the first, which stipulates that Islamic law should be the principal source of legislation, has attracted any public attention; it prompted fears of an Islamic society. The 12 other items, which do not mention Islam, have gone unnoticed.

do make as effort to read it..... you might even learn something...

[miltiades]

Yes Cyperzokyli , have read the link , but I'm still confused as to why Hamas and Fatah are killing each other , are we to blame the West for this , and is it really necessary for us to find a scapegoat for actions that are abundantly clear and there for all to see , will you always search the net looking for minute evidence that the killings that are taking place on a daily basis have their roots elsewhere ?

[Eliko]

Wherever there is conflict or civil disturbance, it is the duty of us all to seek out the root of the problem.

Wherever there is a problem which has political roots, it is the duty of politicians to resolve it peacefully.

Ordinary people do not ordinarily have issues which cannot be resolved amicably.

Therefore, when any situation escalates and results in violence, it is an indication of failure by the politicians OR, a deliberate plan to create such violence, either way it is fairly safe to assume that the root is in politics.

Regarding Palestine, the root is obviously the occupation by Israel of lands that are stolen from the people of that region, the struggles that now take place there are the direct result of Western interference, another example of a superior power imposing it's will on a lesser one.

Do not waste time asking a politician what the problem is, ask the people.

[Hiyar herif]

Do not waste time asking a politician what the problem is, ask the people.

You are asking a bit too much there Eliko.It doesn't matter what the people say.It never has ,it never will.

[growuptcs]

hiyar herif, haven't seen you cruizing here for a while. Hope all is well.