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How can we solve it? (keep it civilized)

Postby pitsilos » Mon Feb 05, 2007 11:19 am

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pitsilos wrote:vp wrote
Time to get a grip, wake up smelling the Turkish Coffee, the dream is over and all you are left with are 44 years worth of hardened TCs and Turks (who have also become TCs) who will not yield to your games, we know what we want and will not give up, just like Piratis says "we will not give up the fight" to win and get what we deserve to live like all other human beings on the planet without being controlled by greedy, self centered and despot GCs and kept under inhumane embargoes.


what you deserve constitutes, ethnically cleansing?

when piratis talks he also talks about respect for human rights. can you claim the same.

you want to declare your own country ask momma turkey to give you some land.


Yes i do talk about human rights for all, GCs to return and have their rights just like us in the north, what ever I see fit for myself I see fit for them do you have a problem with this? as it is what you see fit for me in the "RoC" you dont seem to like it when the shoe is on the other foot. If we cant run a country together why not have 2 separate states where everyone can choose where they wish to live north or south with equal rights for all the citizens.


people were born in the roc period. no one gave you the right to change that. so the properties goes back to these people and they still retain theirnationality.

your way forces people to lose there nationality at gun point if they ever want to return. and you call your self respectin human rights

this is your human rights. turkey comes in kicks 200,000 people out of their ancestral lannds, fortifies the place. then you declare after 32 years, while importing and giving peoples land away, becoming a minority in the occupied areas. the thing you were trying to prevent, yes sure you can come back but under our rules. and then you say i respect human rights :lol:

did anyone ask these people that this is what they want?

and you expect people to take you seriously :lol:

this is in a nutshell vp
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Postby Viewpoint » Mon Feb 05, 2007 11:26 am

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people were born in the roc period. no one gave you the right to change that. so the properties goes back to these people and they still retain theirnationality.


The "RoC" was formed in 1960 but I'm not arguing anything different I agree that all refugees should get their property and return rights back and they can keep whatever nationality they want, like they do in the EU.

your way forces people to lose there nationality at gun point if they ever want to return. and you call your self respectin human rights


You are having problems understanding GCs will have the choice to return and live in the North state under TC administration like TCs will be able to live south under GC administration.

this is your human rights. turkey comes in kicks 200,000 people out of their ancestral lannds, fortifies the place. then you declare after 32 years, while importing and giving peoples land away, becoming a minority in the occupied areas. the thing you were trying to prevent, yes sure you can come back but under our rules. and then you say i respect human rights


Forget the idea of importing people look at the EU do you know the number of Polish people in the UK, you are now supposed to be European its a free market people can move and live where they want, what will you do if Turkey joins the EU and Turks want to come and live in the south? who is the racist now?

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Postby pitsilos » Mon Feb 05, 2007 11:28 am

so basically now you are promoting a one country two states.
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Postby Viewpoint » Mon Feb 05, 2007 11:31 am

pitsilos wrote:so basically now you are promoting a one country two states.


level playing field for both sides then we can sit down as equals and talk about one state unification. This will ensure that neither side has an advantage over the other, what do you think?
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Postby pitsilos » Mon Feb 05, 2007 11:33 am

hahahahahahah mate what does it require to obtain a masters in bullshitiliogity?
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Postby Viewpoint » Mon Feb 05, 2007 11:40 am

pitsilos wrote:hahahahahahah mate what does it require to obtain a masters in bullshitiliogity?


you are so predictable, you would never want to sit down with TCs as equals all you want is to have the upper hand and to expand your GC state to the north of the island, aint gonna happen, think again.
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Postby pitsilos » Mon Feb 05, 2007 11:42 am

i never said that but thats what you want and that ain't happening any time soon until you get used to the idea of 2 states and a one country fair solution. comprender? :lol:
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Postby Viewpoint » Mon Feb 05, 2007 11:56 am

pitsilos wrote:i never said that but thats what you want and that ain't happening any time soon until you get used to the idea of 2 states and a one country fair solution. comprender? :lol:


Isnt that what we are talking about? we level out the ground and then sit down and decide how to unite.
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Postby Kikapu » Mon Feb 05, 2007 12:19 pm

Viewpoint wrote:
pitsilos wrote:i never said that but thats what you want and that ain't happening any time soon until you get used to the idea of 2 states and a one country fair solution. comprender? :lol:


Isnt that what we are talking about? we level out the ground and then sit down and decide how to unite.


No, that is not what you're talking about. What Pisilos is talking about is, a Federal system, one country, 2 states. When you talk about 1 country 2 states, you're talking about a Confederate System, where you claim the Northern Part of Cyprus, belonging to Minority TC's and Majority Turks solely, and all Greek Land can no longer be claimed, because now, it all belongs to you, and you expect to have a workable agreements under these conditions.

Once again Propagandising, are we not "Village Puny". :?: :?:
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Postby BirKibrisli » Mon Feb 05, 2007 12:23 pm

zan wrote:
Birkibrisli wrote:Why is it that I feel I am listening to a broken record...Really VP and Zan you ought to change your tune every now and then.Even just to humour us,give us a bit of a hope that maybe just maybe we are not talking to a brick wall... :evil:




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We know what we want Bir and what we want is what is right. I could pretend to agree with you every now and again but would that not be cruel?



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