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[Pyrpolizer]

And how exactly are you going to guarantee all those measures will not turn against us? How many Zans are there to discredit everything?

Btw I was trying to find the topic about steps taken to convince the GCs partition is the answer but couldn't spot it. I wanted to reply there. Can you give a link?

[Natty]

155. Again, if the purpose of a settlement of the Cyprus question is to be the preservation rather than the destruction of the State, and if it is to foster rather than to militate against the development of a peacefully united people, I cannot help wondering whether the physical division of the minority from the majority should not be considered a desperate step in the wrong direction. I am reluctant to believe, as the Turkish-Cypriot leadership claims, in the "impossibility" of Greek-Cypriots and Turkish-Cypriots learning to live together again in peace. In those parts of the country where movement controls have been relaxed and tensions reduced, they are already proving other- wise.

A quote from The UN mediator Gala Plaza's report on Cyprus, 1965.

That's what I pin my hopes on, that one day, we will live in peace together again...something a UN Mediator who was stationed in Cyprus at the time of the troubles, believed was possible....

Peace.

[Viewpoint]

155. Again, if the purpose of a settlement of the Cyprus question is to be the preservation rather than the destruction of the State, and if it is to foster rather than to militate against the development of a peacefully united people, I cannot help wondering whether the physical division of the minority from the majority should not be considered a desperate step in the wrong direction. I am reluctant to believe, as the Turkish-Cypriot leadership claims, in the "impossibility" of Greek-Cypriots and Turkish-Cypriots learning to live together again in peace. In those parts of the country where movement controls have been relaxed and tensions reduced, they are already proving other- wise.

A quote from The UN mediator Gala Plaza's report on Cyprus, 1965.

That's what I pin my hopes on, that one day, we will live in peace together again...something a UN Mediator who was stationed in Cyprus at the time of the troubles, believed was possible....

Peace.

So thats ok then just because a UN mediator says so?, great logic Batty

[Viewpoint]

And how exactly are you going to guarantee all those measures will not turn against us? How many Zans are there to discredit everything?

Btw I was trying to find the topic about steps taken to convince the GCs partition is the answer but couldn't spot it. I wanted to reply there. Can you give a link?

http://www.cyprus-forum.com/viewtopic.p ... 540#130540


Property returns could start first or the building projects to rehouse, or just Ercan....where there is a will there is way. Level playing field Pyro it is the only way as we unable to agree a solution wholesale.

[zan]

Step aside Zan. You are clueless. I am talking with VP now. VP will have you as an example to my queries.

And you have

Anything like the heating advice you gave by any chance......


I have to admit though tonight you seem different again......had to call head Pyro in to fix what the others messed up right.

[zan]

And how exactly are you going to guarantee all those measures will not turn against us? How many Zans are there to discredit everything?

Btw I was trying to find the topic about steps taken to convince the GCs partition is the answer but couldn't spot it. I wanted to reply there. Can you give a link?

The same way that you are going to guarantee that the RoC is not going to turn against us.


Now answer the question and give us some details. The web you are weaving will end up catching only you.

[Kikapu]

And how exactly are you going to guarantee all those measures will not turn against us? How many Zans are there to discredit everything?

Btw I was trying to find the topic about steps taken to convince the GCs partition is the answer but couldn't spot it. I wanted to reply there. Can you give a link?

http://www.cyprus-forum.com/viewtopic.p ... 540#130540


Property returns could start first or the building projects to rehouse, or just Ercan....where there is a will there is way. Level playing field Pyro it is the only way as we unable to agree a solution wholesale.

VP,

Please explain to us, what will we do , by achieving a "level playing field". If we don't want any part of the RoC now, according to you, why would we later, at much later time.??

If I thought this would bring the two sides together in the future, I would say, go for it. But something tells me, by having already achieved the "level playing field", there would be no incentive to re-unite, I mean, who would.??

Also, if the rest of the world want to give us a "level playing field", why don't they. Why not just ignore the RoC, and give us what we want. So why don't they. Is it perhaps, they don't want to set up a precedence, for every ethnic group in the world wanting to break away from the country they live in, because their ethnic majority said so. !!

I can just see the USA, going from 50 states, to becoming 500 nations.!!

[zan]

And how exactly are you going to guarantee all those measures will not turn against us? How many Zans are there to discredit everything?

Btw I was trying to find the topic about steps taken to convince the GCs partition is the answer but couldn't spot it. I wanted to reply there. Can you give a link?

http://www.cyprus-forum.com/viewtopic.p ... 540#130540


Property returns could start first or the building projects to rehouse, or just Ercan....where there is a will there is way. Level playing field Pyro it is the only way as we unable to agree a solution wholesale.

VP,

Please explain to us, what will we do , by achieving a "level playing field". If we don't want any part of the RoC now, according to you, why would we later, at much later time.??

If I thought this would bring the two sides together in the future, I would say, go for it. But something tells me, by having already achieved the "level playing field", there would be no incentive to re-unite, I mean, who would.??

Also, if the rest of the world want to give us a "level playing field", why don't they. Why not just ignore the RoC, and give us what we want. So why don't they. Is it perhaps, they don't want to set up a precedence, for every ethnic group in the world wanting to break away from the country they live in, because their ethnic majority said so. !!

I can just see the USA, going from 50 states, to becoming 500 nations.!!

If I may step in.......

Why do you compare the USA that is already established with the unique problems that Cyprus has. They have nothing in common.

The answer to your other question is more strength in unity once both sides are equal. There will be less animosity between us and as I have said before the only thing that is unstoppable in all of this is business. I said that two years ago and people are only now realising the importance of it. Big businesses will automatically want to merge in the world of bigger businesses and that is only one step away from total unity. No politician will be able to get in its way. We do not have that at the moment so stop thinking of level playing fields in small scale think big.

[Kikapu]

If I may step in.......

Why do you compare the USA that is already established with the unique problems that Cyprus has. They have nothing in common.

The answer to your other question is more strength in unity once both sides are equal. There will be less animosity between us and as I have said before the only thing that is unstoppable in all of this is business. I said that two years ago and people are only now realising the importance of it. Big businesses will automatically want to merge in the world of bigger businesses and that is only one step away from total unity. No politician will be able to get in its way. We do not have that at the moment so stop thinking of level playing fields in small scale think big.

Zan,

You can have 20 years or more of the "level playing field", and at the end, we will be right back to where we are now, with the RoC. While we are moving ahead with improving the "TRNC, do you think the RoC is just going to sit there, until we reach their level, or they will be thrusting forward at even faster rate, than they are now, specially, if the oil becomes real money.

As I said before to VP, that California is the richest state in the Union, and places like Alabama are scraping the bottom. I'm sorry but, California is not going to wait for Alabama to catch up.

The question still stands. Why is the world not moving to give the "TRNC" a "level playing field" if it is in their (worlds) economic interest.??

[Viewpoint]

And how exactly are you going to guarantee all those measures will not turn against us? How many Zans are there to discredit everything?

Btw I was trying to find the topic about steps taken to convince the GCs partition is the answer but couldn't spot it. I wanted to reply there. Can you give a link?

http://www.cyprus-forum.com/viewtopic.p ... 540#130540


Property returns could start first or the building projects to rehouse, or just Ercan....where there is a will there is way. Level playing field Pyro it is the only way as we unable to agree a solution wholesale.

VP,

Please explain to us, what will we do , by achieving a "level playing field". If we don't want any part of the RoC now, according to you, why would we later, at much later time.??

If I thought this would bring the two sides together in the future, I would say, go for it. But something tells me, by having already achieved the "level playing field", there would be no incentive to re-unite, I mean, who would.??

Also, if the rest of the world want to give us a "level playing field", why don't they. Why not just ignore the RoC, and give us what we want. So why don't they. Is it perhaps, they don't want to set up a precedence, for every ethnic group in the world wanting to break away from the country they live in, because their ethnic majority said so. !!

I can just see the USA, going from 50 states, to becoming 500 nations.!!

With the break up of so many unions in the heart of Europe this may be the next stage, this stalemate cannot continue forever when we are long gone the world may just accept the impasse and acknowledge the right of the north to be allowed into the ranks of the world. Are all the states in the USA demand independence? They have matured into a super power they are unlikely to do anything to damage that.