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[reportfromcyprus]

I've been over the border a few times, and always enjoyed meeting Turkish Cypriot people, they are friendly and not pushy at all when you go shopping or have a coffee.

[Viewpoint]

I was really referring to the lack of stories, the "Cypriot" contingent would have us believe that there is an abundance of happy stories, as you can see people don't care they are more interesting in shopping and quenching the initial interest in seeing what the other side looks like after that its not even given a second thought. This proves we are 2 separate people living in 2 separate states with our own thing going on, this is what works for Cyprus we should move towards allowing 2 states on a level playing field where people can roam freely and settle where ever they wish under the leadership of that state.

Why don't you tell us all the "happy" stories you hear from all those living in the "TRNC". Are we to believe, because not all Cypriots are at their computer every minute to write their experiences, that nothing good goes on. So, according to you, if a tree falls in a forest, and there's no one there to hear it, the falling tree did not make a noise.!!

How would 2 separate states going to make Cypriots "happier", when they are not "happy" now.? Once people have access to their property and no check points, feeling they own the whole country, even if it means, having two states, under One system, world recognition, then they will be much happier.

Lets get this clear Kikapoulous, I have no problem with refugees getting property rights back or coming to live in the TRNC, thats why I feel GCs should apply to the property commission to get their land back or compensation, or to expose it otherwise. They can roam freely and settle where they wish. Ask them what they will do for the TRNC?

[Kikapu]

I've been over the border a few times, and always enjoyed meeting Turkish Cypriot people, they are friendly and not pushy at all when you go shopping or have a coffee.

Tell it to VP. I don't think he had his coffee this morning, because he is acting very cranky.

[Viewpoint]

I've been over the border a few times, and always enjoyed meeting Turkish Cypriot people, they are friendly and not pushy at all when you go shopping or have a coffee.

Tell it to VP. I don't think he had his coffee this morning, because he is acting very cranky.

So Kikapoulous what do you think a 2 state solution where people can decide for themselves where they want to live?

[Kikapu]

I've been over the border a few times, and always enjoyed meeting Turkish Cypriot people, they are friendly and not pushy at all when you go shopping or have a coffee.

Tell it to VP. I don't think he had his coffee this morning, because he is acting very cranky.

So Kikapoulous what do you think a 2 state solution where people can decide for themselves where they want to live?

You will have to define what you mean by 2 states. Do you actually mean 2 countries or 2 states under one government, much like the USA.

[Viewpoint]

I've been over the border a few times, and always enjoyed meeting Turkish Cypriot people, they are friendly and not pushy at all when you go shopping or have a coffee.

Tell it to VP. I don't think he had his coffee this morning, because he is acting very cranky.

So Kikapoulous what do you think a 2 state solution where people can decide for themselves where they want to live?

You will have to define what you mean by 2 states. Do you actually mean 2 countries or 2 states under one government, much like the USA.

2 countries as we have been unable to agree the federal level, where TCs and GCs are free to settle in either one. If at a later stage trust and understanding can be established and the states wish to unite for mutual benefit then the people may decide.

[humanist]

This is ridiculous discussion, really. I have heard today people saving memorabilia for people to collect, I am hearing of people looking after people's property (infact what I am hearing is that the Turkish Speaking Cypriots are either looking, protecting and giving towards Greek Speaking Cypriots. My guess is that they really don't feel they have the right to be where they are. That is the deep seated goodness of a Cyprus that is forgoten) to this end they will never feel comfortable with being in Greek Speaking refugee Cypriot property. Turkish Speaking Cypriots cross the border every day for work and Greek Speaking Cypriots go north, the people are living together and the people will live together permanently. The politics and foreign interests is what is keeping Cypriots apart.

[Viewpoint]

This is ridiculous discussion, really. I have heard today people saving memorabilia for people to collect, I am hearing of people looking after people's property (infact what I am hearing is that the Turkish Speaking Cypriots are either looking, protecting and giving towards Greek Speaking Cypriots. My guess is that they really don't feel they have the right to be where they are. That is the deep seated goodness of a Cyprus that is forgoten) to this end they will never feel comfortable with being in Greek Speaking refugee Cypriot property. Turkish Speaking Cypriots cross the border every day for work and Greek Speaking Cypriots go north, the people are living together and the people will live together permanently. The politics and foreign interests is what is keeping Cypriots apart.

People are free to live together, Tcs can move to the south and live with their GC "brothers", why aren't they doing this? who's stopping them, its been 4 years and you have no more of a TCs population today than you you did then. You are really kidding yourselves.

[humanist]

one country, two equal states under a federal govenment, federal govenment to be made up of the 18% TSC's as per 1960's constitution, foreign troops and bases out of Cyprus No military in Cyprus, buffer zone be turned into national park where appropriate historical ground where appropriate, people live where they want to live, work where they want to work, conduct business where they want to do so, Greek and Turkish languages taught at all schools for all students, and Andreas sits back at a bar in Kyrenia enjoying a nice cool cocktail, Aaaaaahhhh that's nice.

[Viewpoint]

The 1960 constitution is 30% TCs, would we have veto rights? and would be always be the majoirty in the north state?