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New Poll in TRNC 65% of TCs want a 2 state solution.

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Postby Viewpoint » Tue Jan 30, 2007 3:30 pm

DT wrote:
DT wrote:how much land you willing to give up VP to get your state?


are you asking the same?
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Postby DT. » Tue Jan 30, 2007 4:03 pm

yes. wanna answer?
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Postby Viewpoint » Tue Jan 30, 2007 4:26 pm

Viewpoint wrote:
DT wrote:
DT wrote:how much land you willing to give up VP to get your state?


are you asking the same?


Id be willing to give up anything over the amount necessary to accomadate returning GCs and allow for a viable country to be formed for everyone living in the north. I would also set up an independent court to resolve any property rights matters. So Id say the North State would be in the region 25-27%.
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Postby DT. » Tue Jan 30, 2007 4:28 pm

Viewpoint wrote:
Viewpoint wrote:
DT wrote:
DT wrote:how much land you willing to give up VP to get your state?


are you asking the same?


Id be willing to give up anything over the amount necessary to accomadate returning GCs and allow for a viable country to be formed for everyone living in the north. I would also set up an independent court to resolve any property rights matters. So Id say the North State would be in the region 25-27%.


thanks, good to get a straight answer from you sometimes..
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Postby Pyrpolizer » Tue Jan 30, 2007 6:11 pm

Viewpoint wrote: So Id say the North State would be in the region 25-27%.


REJECTED.
You owe only 12% of the land. This was the case even when the British were here.
I already told you no GC wants to return, and no TC will be allowed to return. We are talking for PARTITION, do you understand?A CLEAR solution with no ifs, no buts, no anything. And I don't care how viable your partition state will be and neither should you care how viable my state will be.

Anything else VP to make me roll on the ground and accept partition?
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Postby Viewpoint » Wed Jan 31, 2007 9:44 am

Pyrpolizer wrote:
Viewpoint wrote: So Id say the North State would be in the region 25-27%.


REJECTED.
You owe only 12% of the land. This was the case even when the British were here.
I already told you no GC wants to return, and no TC will be allowed to return. We are talking for PARTITION, do you understand?A CLEAR solution with no ifs, no buts, no anything. And I don't care how viable your partition state will be and neither should you care how viable my state will be.

Anything else VP to make me roll on the ground and accept partition?


How can you be so sure GCs will not want their property rights or return? do you really believe all them will sell? you are not being very realistic, one minute you are all crying ho my ancestral lands and now just because the table has been turned and you will live as a minority in the TRNC which by the way is what you offer us you suddenly have forgotten all those crocodile tears and want to sell up, funny that never thought GC claims on property was very sincere just another play to take control of the whole island and force pure majority GC rule. The % for TC land ownership can be evaluated by an independent body, taking into account disputes, 1963, GC return, plus don't forget our share of state land this figure will easily reach over 20%.
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Postby zan » Wed Jan 31, 2007 10:14 am

Viewpoint wrote:
Pyrpolizer wrote:
Viewpoint wrote: So Id say the North State would be in the region 25-27%.


REJECTED.
You owe only 12% of the land. This was the case even when the British were here.
I already told you no GC wants to return, and no TC will be allowed to return. We are talking for PARTITION, do you understand?A CLEAR solution with no ifs, no buts, no anything. And I don't care how viable your partition state will be and neither should you care how viable my state will be.

Anything else VP to make me roll on the ground and accept partition?


How can you be so sure GCs will not want their property rights or return? do you really believe all them will sell? you are not being very realistic, one minute you are all crying ho my ancestral lands and now just because the table has been turned and you will live as a minority in the TRNC which by the way is what you offer us you suddenly have forgotten all those crocodile tears and want to sell up, funny that never thought GC claims on property was very sincere just another play to take control of the whole island and force pure majority GC rule. The % for TC land ownership can be evaluated by an independent body, taking into account disputes, 1963, GC return, plus don't forget our share of state land this figure will easily reach over 20%.



I made it up to between 27-30% when Kifeas gave us some figures a while back VP ut as usual he went off the rails. I will leave it to your imagination as to what he called me.
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Postby Viewpoint » Wed Jan 31, 2007 10:21 am

zan wrote:
Viewpoint wrote:
Pyrpolizer wrote:
Viewpoint wrote: So Id say the North State would be in the region 25-27%.


REJECTED.
You owe only 12% of the land. This was the case even when the British were here.
I already told you no GC wants to return, and no TC will be allowed to return. We are talking for PARTITION, do you understand?A CLEAR solution with no ifs, no buts, no anything. And I don't care how viable your partition state will be and neither should you care how viable my state will be.

Anything else VP to make me roll on the ground and accept partition?


How can you be so sure GCs will not want their property rights or return? do you really believe all them will sell? you are not being very realistic, one minute you are all crying ho my ancestral lands and now just because the table has been turned and you will live as a minority in the TRNC which by the way is what you offer us you suddenly have forgotten all those crocodile tears and want to sell up, funny that never thought GC claims on property was very sincere just another play to take control of the whole island and force pure majority GC rule. The % for TC land ownership can be evaluated by an independent body, taking into account disputes, 1963, GC return, plus don't forget our share of state land this figure will easily reach over 20%.



I made it up to between 27-30% when Kifeas gave us some figures a while back VP ut as usual he went off the rails. I will leave it to your imagination as to what he called me.


I can guess zan but its language I dont normally use. :wink:
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Postby zan » Wed Jan 31, 2007 10:56 am

:lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:
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Postby Pyrpolizer » Wed Jan 31, 2007 11:37 am

Viewpoint wrote:
Pyrpolizer wrote:
Viewpoint wrote: So Id say the North State would be in the region 25-27%.


REJECTED.
You owe only 12% of the land. This was the case even when the British were here.
I already told you no GC wants to return, and no TC will be allowed to return. We are talking for PARTITION, do you understand?A CLEAR solution with no ifs, no buts, no anything. And I don't care how viable your partition state will be and neither should you care how viable my state will be.

Anything else VP to make me roll on the ground and accept partition?


How can you be so sure GCs will not want their property rights or return? do you really believe all them will sell? you are not being very realistic, one minute you are all crying ho my ancestral lands and now just because the table has been turned and you will live as a minority in the TRNC which by the way is what you offer us you suddenly have forgotten all those crocodile tears and want to sell up, funny that never thought GC claims on property was very sincere just another play to take control of the whole island and force pure majority GC rule. The % for TC land ownership can be evaluated by an independent body, taking into account disputes, 1963, GC return, plus don't forget our share of state land this figure will easily reach over 20%.


OK Viewpoint, we almost reached a discussable point.
Now tell me what have YOU DONE to persuade the GCs accept partition? Tell me have you returned any land to RoC? Have you accomodated any GC come there and live as a normal citizen under an acceptable law (like the EU law), get his lands and properties, get voting rights, have you lessened the number of the Turkish army, have you sent any settlers back, have you returned the ghost town of Famagusta? Have you called for an independent committee to judge the matter of land ownership?

NB. I hope you do not revert with ridiculous answers like yes we established a property committtee while at the same time your own leaders say it cannot return not even 1% of properties....
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