Cyprus-Forum.com

[souroul]

please can someone tell me how talat and turkey came to the conclusion that we have to share the oil with them? i mean are they serious? this is so fucking proposterous its not even funny. for christ sake, you invade and occupy a third of my fucking country and you want the oil that was found on the FREE side? i mean what the hell!!

can someone shed some light

[Kikapu]

no i wasnt still pursuing the metaphor, i meant liturally, where exactly is this oil?!

Oh, I thought we were writing a screenplay here or something, but you actually were being serious.

To answer you question, I'm not really certain. I'm sure it falls in the continental waters of the ROC. It could even be between Northern part of Cyprus and Turkey, but it would not make any difference, because "TRNC" is not a country.

It is a real country for us, and if you believe we would think otherwise then we are all heading towards some serious problems.

Oh, I believe that you believe, it is a real country for you. It's not your fault Shahmaran, you have been mislead by your elders, that's all. So let me tell you where you live. It is called CYPRUS:

Thank you for clearing that up for me Kikapu, now when you have the face to actually return to your country you "care" so much about, and ever come to the TRNC, we can have another chat about it then, and you can tell everyone you meet there where they actually come from, lets see how far you will get...dont forget to mention you were away for the last 40 years tho, because what they love the most is people who didnt even bother living there, coming back after half a century only to tell them what their real nationality is...no offence by the way, but that is the way it goes.

You mean these people do not know, that they are actually Cypriots. ??Well, in that case, I'll come back and claim to be a King, and that Northern Cyprus is called "Kikapu's Kingdom". Do you think they will buy that.? I sure hope not. Like I said, it is not the fault of all those who are under 40 years old. What they know, is what they been told.

[shahmaran]

no i wasnt still pursuing the metaphor, i meant liturally, where exactly is this oil?!

Oh, I thought we were writing a screenplay here or something, but you actually were being serious.

To answer you question, I'm not really certain. I'm sure it falls in the continental waters of the ROC. It could even be between Northern part of Cyprus and Turkey, but it would not make any difference, because "TRNC" is not a country.

It is a real country for us, and if you believe we would think otherwise then we are all heading towards some serious problems.

Oh, I believe that you believe, it is a real country for you. It's not your fault Shahmaran, you have been mislead by your elders, that's all. So let me tell you where you live. It is called CYPRUS:

Thank you for clearing that up for me Kikapu, now when you have the face to actually return to your country you "care" so much about, and ever come to the TRNC, we can have another chat about it then, and you can tell everyone you meet there where they actually come from, lets see how far you will get...dont forget to mention you were away for the last 40 years tho, because what they love the most is people who didnt even bother living there, coming back after half a century only to tell them what their real nationality is...no offence by the way, but that is the way it goes.

You mean these people do not know, that they are actually Cypriots. ??Well, in that case, I'll come back and claim to be a King, and that Northern Cyprus is called "Kikapu's Kingdom". Do you think they will buy that.? I sure hope not. Like I said, it is not the fault of all those who are under 40 years old. What they know, is what they been told.

no one said they were all young, but anyways Kikapu you come and claim your kingdom and we see what happens.....

[pitsilos]

what about if the oil was found off the norh shore of cyprus and between turkey.

does anyone think that turkey would even conteplate sharing anything?

[Kikapu]

Shahmaran,

Can you please tell me what you say to those, when they ask you, where you are from and what you call yourself.?

You may have already done this once before, but humour me anyway, by answering this question.

[DT.]

I reckon everyone must see this in the de facto sitiuation that exists right now. There is a de facto partition. The ROC has only effective control over the southern part of the island. The benefits from this natural resource will be made available to the government of the ROC to do with is as it sees fit in the territory it controls. After all I do not recall the TC's sharing the wealth everytime some piece of land in the north was sold. (both natural resources)

End the partition now, send the foreign troops away, join the republic and lets all share the wealth.

If this happened in Switzerland, Malta...etc they'd be all over this opportunity. Unfortunately we are Cypriots......and idiots.

[zan]

I reckon everyone must see this in the de facto sitiuation that exists right now. There is a de facto partition. The ROC has only effective control over the southern part of the island. The benefits from this natural resource will be made available to the government of the ROC to do with is as it sees fit in the territory it controls. After all I do not recall the TC's sharing the wealth everytime some piece of land in the north was sold. (both natural resources)

End the partition now, send the foreign troops away, join the republic and lets all share the wealth.

If this happened in Switzerland, Malta...etc they'd be all over this opportunity. Unfortunately we are Cypriots......and idiots.

There is another option DT and that is partition and a share of the oil. I am not trying to be argumentative here but as I see it this find will now cement Turkeys interests in the island and if there is a threat like there was before and there seems to have been for a long time then the oil will get left where it is and no one will benefit from it. Lets make no mistake there has been talk that oil is there for as long as I can remember why is it now that this is all coming to head. This is another attempt from the RoC to force the situation and another attempt from Turkey to stop it. We are just getting more of the same. I still see it as being the most dangerous point we have reached for a long time though.

[DT.]

I reckon everyone must see this in the de facto sitiuation that exists right now. There is a de facto partition. The ROC has only effective control over the southern part of the island. The benefits from this natural resource will be made available to the government of the ROC to do with is as it sees fit in the territory it controls. After all I do not recall the TC's sharing the wealth everytime some piece of land in the north was sold. (both natural resources)

End the partition now, send the foreign troops away, join the republic and lets all share the wealth.

If this happened in Switzerland, Malta...etc they'd be all over this opportunity. Unfortunately we are Cypriots......and idiots.

There is another option DT and that is partition and a share of the oil. I am not trying to be argumentative here but as I see it this find will now cement Turkeys interests in the island and if there is a threat like there was before and there seems to have been for a long time then the oil will get left where it is and no one will benefit from it. Lets make no mistake there has been talk that oil is there for as long as I can remember why is it now that this is all coming to head. This is another attempt from the RoC to force the situation and another attempt from Turkey to stop it. We are just getting more of the same. I still see it as being the most dangerous point we have reached for a long time though.

Zan, with respect....what are you talking about?? You've still got people's homes over there and you expect a share from oil in the part of cyprus the turkish army left behind...without re-unification?

[Kikapu]

There is another option DT and that is partition and a share of the oil. I am not trying to be argumentative here but as I see it this find will now cement Turkeys interests in the island and if there is a threat like there was before and there seems to have been for a long time then the oil will get left where it is and no one will benefit from it. Lets make no mistake there has been talk that oil is there for as long as I can remember why is it now that this is all coming to head. This is another attempt from the RoC to force the situation and another attempt from Turkey to stop it. We are just getting more of the same. I still see it as being the most dangerous point we have reached for a long time though.

I see it as a good opportunity by giving all Cypriots a chance to benefit from the oil, if they are willing to live and work together, under one government, but two States. Of course, there will be many TC's who would be interested in this, if they think they will benefit from the "Bounty" by saying..."HOW ME THE MONEY", before moving an inch.

[shahmaran]

Kikapu im sure you entertain yourself plenty with your little sarcasm.

You claim to know where we (the people of the TRNC) are from better then we do ourselves from thousands of miles away, yet our Passports say KKTC and so does our drivers licences and our ID cards, and we travel with them, i have rented a car with that from Madrid and drove all around Spain and Portugal, i have done the same in Germany and in Holland, so to be honest what you think means jack shit really but you are more than welcome to come over to the TRNC and try to preace otherwise, i hope that gave you the chukkles you were after my friend.