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[bill cobbett]

Well your advantege is that you can come to the UK for example and study as an EU citizen for nearly 1/7th of the money the TCs would have to pay, which hardly any of them can ever afford, and that is not including the living expenses.

Shahmaran old boy. I may be wrong and if I am, I am sure I will be corrected, but my understanding is that northerners like your good self are EU citizens even though the territory of the northern part of the Island is not.

[G.Man]

Yes I was under the impression that TC's have a cyprus passport and are EU citizens as well..

Am I right or wrong on this? I thought it was just the regime that was unrecognised, not the lejitimate cyprus citizens?

[the_snake_and_the_crane]

Thats why this so-called isolation on Turkish Cypriots is a load of rubbish. Its not a community that is isolated on foreign trade but the occupation in the north. Are the few Turkish Cypriot's living in the free areas in the south 'isolated' too?

If Turkish Cypriots wish to live in an illegal state then that is their fault.

[zan]

The new watch word "free areas".

[shahmaran]

Well your advantege is that you can come to the UK for example and study as an EU citizen for nearly 1/7th of the money the TCs would have to pay, which hardly any of them can ever afford, and that is not including the living expenses.

Shahmaran old boy. I may be wrong and if I am, I am sure I will be corrected, but my understanding is that northerners like your good self are EU citizens even though the territory of the northern part of the Island is not.

yes we can be EU if we go down south and get one of these new flashy passports the RoC has been handing out to everyone who can proove that they are fully Cypriot, plenty of people got them, but not everyone is exactly rushing to the borders to get them since not everyone can afford to use them for anything worthwhile.

So getting this passport Snake, does not mean much to many people, the isolation does not suddenly dissapear when you have a fucking passport, you catching the drift my friend....

[bill cobbett]

Shahmaran, when you say "prove they are fully Cypriot", what goes on? Does this mean passing an RoC test to prove citizenship or what?

[LENA]

Well your advantege is that you can come to the UK for example and study as an EU citizen for nearly 1/7th of the money the TCs would have to pay, which hardly any of them can ever afford, and that is not including the living expenses.

Shahmaran old boy. I may be wrong and if I am, I am sure I will be corrected, but my understanding is that northerners like your good self are EU citizens even though the territory of the northern part of the Island is not.

yes we can be EU if we go down south and get one of these new flashy passports the RoC has been handing out to everyone who can proove that they are fully Cypriot, plenty of people got them, but not everyone is exactly rushing to the borders to get them since not everyone can afford to use them for anything worthwhile.

So getting this passport Snake, does not mean much to many people, the isolation does not suddenly dissapear when you have a fucking passport, you catching the drift my friend....

You are right my dear Shahmaran...so you will have the chance you asked for cheaper Education. So we have to pay the same amount...only that we are kind of forced to "flee" away with just one Uni but you not that much with 6 Unies!!!!!!!!!!

[shahmaran]

Lena if we have 6 AMAZING universities that are also cheap why would anyone need to leave the island, i dont understand your point, its a matter of choice, but its still nice to have different options to decide on...

Bill you have to proove that you are Cypriot descendent, as in not the child of a Turk from mainland who came after the war, so basically you have to muster up the birth certificates of your ancestors and go over there, i belive the RoC authorities usually has all the old documents of the ppl from before the conflict anyway, so for some its quite easy for others its a really long and painfull proccess of constantly having to travel to south and spend tonnes of money on taxis and wait in queues and we all know how entertaining government offices are.

i know quite a few people who got put off after a few tries and never went back, some make big plans to start a new life abroad so its crucial that they obtain this passport, others are not really that bothered. i personally dont have one, and i was told by the officers that i wouldnt be allowed back south if i dont get one, which i will not, so looks like no more 31 for me...

[Viewpoint]

Thats why this so-called isolation on Turkish Cypriots is a load of rubbish. Its not a community that is isolated on foreign trade but the occupation in the north. Are the few Turkish Cypriot's living in the free areas in the south 'isolated' too?

If Turkish Cypriots wish to live in an illegal state then that is their fault.

so snake we should all come and live in the GC state "RoC" run by GCs for GCs as a minority, er don't think so, that could have happened 4 years ago when the borders were opened, I don't see a mass exodus have you ever wondered why?

[Viewpoint]

shahmaran

i personally dont have one, and i was told by the officers that i wouldnt be allowed back south if i dont get one, which i will not, so looks like no more 31 for me...

Nor do I, its the principle thing just as the GC do not want to cross using their passports I do not want to use a passport of a country that I do not pay taxes to, feel I belong or represents me. Using the TRNC passport forces other countries to take note that there is a country called the Turkish Republic of Northern Cyprus.