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Postby Kikapu » Sat Feb 03, 2007 3:43 pm

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But where does that 70% choose to reside? in the TRNC they are not commited or aligned to the "RoC", if you were offered benefits by say France for free you would be a fool not to take them especially if there is no need for you to undertake any responsibility or liability all you need to do is make an application pay the fee and get a document which gives you benefits....its the "RoC" that claims to represent all "Cypriots" so they are obliged by law to issue these documents, I would like to see them stop issuing and the negative press and impact this would have on their cause to show the world that they are the legal representatives of TCs.

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Very Pointless,

This is what you have created, by demanding a division of the island, rather than pushing hard to create 2 states withing one Country, and don't even bother to bring up the AP again. You have people receiving a "hand out" from Turkey, and also made to feel, they are getting a "hand out" fom the RoC. Don't you dare to call yourself a proud Turkish Cypriot, by creating this situation, for your own community. This is exactly what I'm talking about, when I say, that those who have made their money on the backs of others, are also happy to see their own people become "Dilinci" BEGGARS. Shame on all those that take advantage of the less fortunate, for their own gains.
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Postby Viewpoint » Sat Feb 03, 2007 3:44 pm

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It was unworkable right from the start.


So when you agrred and signed you had no intention of making it work? The only way to make it work was to water down Tcs rights and strengthen the GC hand, great.

No it was not. From 1968 onwards Makarios was publicly speaking not for the desirable but for the possible.


That was a cover when did Makarios ever tell the truth, he was funding and pushing TCs abroad as they were so economically strained I think you call that ethnic cleansing.

Yes. Under which not even one TC was hurt.


It consituted a threat to an already disfunctional constitution and created a state of emergency in which the TC community were definately at risk. Even Makarious asked Turkey to intervene.

There was, he held power for only 6 days. He did not broadcast anything in 1974. He said that many years later. However he lost power the 6th day and Klerides took over. 2 days later Turkey Invaded. Klerides was the greatest GC Phiilo-Turk ever.(He was the one who donated you the Anan Plan). So why Turkey Invaded?


So there was no risk during those 6 days? the constitution was not in taters and the TCs were living in heaven, come one even you can understand the fear and explosive position TCs were in.

Yes because this is where Ankara wanted them to be, to have them safe during the Invasion. Each ghetto was governed by at least one General from Turkey. True or not that each and every ghetto or enclave was governed by a mainland Turkish General?


This is what you want to believe the fear was very real and TCs found solis in sticking together this is very natural. Why should TCs want to live in such squalid conditions if they could go home and reclaim whats theres, even today we hear stories of what GCs were doing to the TC community, you to can today go to TC villages in the north and talk to old TCs they will explain exactly what they lived through and how they were treated during those times.

There was no threatening of the existence of TCs, because they were already concentrated in enclaves. The Invasion was the final strike of a well pre-planned process of Taksim, and the only way to come to that was the concentration of the TCs in enclaves and their suffering. True the best servants to have the policy of TCs concentrating in enclaves were the GC extremists. If you are unable to see who wanted you to be in enclaves you will constantly lose the whole picture


I am happy that we did not chance on not being anniahalated and that Turkey arrived when they did Im pretty certain you would have wanted the same if you were the ones at risk of being killed .

The very same policy of having the TCs concentrated in a bigger enclave and continue suffereing the consequences is practiced EVEN TODAY, as the Taksim dream has not yet finished. It will finish when TRashNcan gets recognised i.e NEVER.


Suffering? get real have you visited the north or spent time with a TC family, one less car or one less holiday a year is not suffering, please dont insult the poor and hungry in Africa who are suffering with TCs who have a standard of living on par with other EU countries.

As for the TRNC being recognized we will see...only time will prove who is right and who is wrong.
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Postby pitsilos » Sat Feb 03, 2007 3:45 pm

can anyone take an estimate how much money turkey tipped in the occupied areas?

the reason i say this is because turkey owes the imf in excess of US$200 billion.
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Postby Pyrpolizer » Sat Feb 03, 2007 3:47 pm

Viewpoint wrote: Birkopolous…


Hi, Pyrpologlou here.

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Postby shahmaran » Sat Feb 03, 2007 3:48 pm

so whats your point? you a spokesman for the IMF too now?
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Postby MR-from-NG » Sat Feb 03, 2007 3:48 pm

Pyrpolizer wrote:
Birkibrisli wrote: you are too cowardly to demand your rights (the only constitutional rights you have) in the RoC


Very true Birkibrisli. VP prefers to let the RoC which also belongs to him to be run by the GCs and some other minorities only. He cannot understand he has rights over there and he can actually screw the GCs if he asks them back. He cannot see it is the responsibility of that state (currently run by GCs) to accomodate TCs in the governing process, and take care of their wellfare.
Let the RoC screw itself by paying for your welfare, and the rent asked by any GC on whose property you are living VP. Until you come back to your feet and be able to support yourself and contribute as a proud self respecting citizen.
The path you are now walking is leading you nowhere else than to the arms of Turkey, they pay for you as if you are a beggar, one day they will ask their money back. You have nothing to pay them back, all you have is yourself that will be driven out of here and be replaced by more and more and more fijia, and fijia, and fijia…

NB. fijia, are the settlers it is the same word as in GC dialect. It means sea wracks.


If I know VP I'm sure he'd much rather French-kiss a shark. Of course I and the rest of the TC's would do the same.
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Postby shahmaran » Sat Feb 03, 2007 3:49 pm

when are some of these GCs going to get the TRNC reality into their thick skulls, it amazes me how much longer they can live their lives being in denial...
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Postby Viewpoint » Sat Feb 03, 2007 3:51 pm

Pyrpolizer wrote:
Birkibrisli wrote: you are too cowardly to demand your rights (the only constitutional rights you have) in the RoC


Very true Birkibrisli. VP prefers to let the RoC which also belongs to him to be run by the GCs and some other minorities only. He cannot understand he has rights over there and he can actually screw the GCs if he asks them back. He cannot see it is the responsibility of that state (currently run by GCs) to accomodate TCs in the governing process, and take care of their wellfare.
Let the RoC screw itself by paying for your welfare, and the rent asked by any GC on whose property you are living VP. Until you come back to your feet and be able to support yourself and contribute as a proud self respecting citizen.
The path you are now walking is leading you nowhere else than to the arms of Turkey, they pay for you as if you are a beggar, one day they will ask their money back. You have nothing to pay them back, all you have is yourself that will be driven out of here and be replaced by more and more and more fijia, and fijia, and fijia…

NB. fijia, are the settlers it is the same word as in GC dialect. It

means sea wracks.


This would mean disolving the TRNC which are not prepared to do and why should we want to screw the "RoC"?...thats your way of thinking not mine.

Obviously you know nothing about economics the money that Turkeys gives to us returns to their own economy 2/3 fold, where do you think the majoirty of products we use in the TRNC come from?
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Postby pitsilos » Sat Feb 03, 2007 3:52 pm

shahmaran wrote:so whats your point? you a spokesman for the IMF too now?

no i'm not a spokesman, but that will give you a clearer picture of how much you are in the poo to turkey.

now do you know or someone else knows?
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Postby Kikapu » Sat Feb 03, 2007 3:52 pm

mrfromng wrote:If I know VP I'm sure he'd much rather French-kiss a shark. Of course I and the rest of the TC's would do the same.


Why, what's wrong with the Turkish Women. :?: :?:
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