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[pitsilos]

Turkey saved us in 1974 from certain genocide...

Pistilos,

It wasn't if but in fact when this would happen. 74 made damn sure it was never going to happen.

Let BK and Kikapu argue otherwise. They represent Jack-shit. Viewpoint represents all of the TRNC. Well done VP, I'm proud of you.

the above proves nothing and you know it. 5 years prior to the invasion no fiighting and no tc was killed.

cypriots rejected enosis by fiighting against it and winning.

then when its over turkey comes in to invade, but hang on no tc was harmed in the last 5 years.

for you to come and claim a genocide not on the if but on the when is totally ludicrous.

[Pyrpolizer]

Turkey intervened in 74 BECAUSE of the killings, not the other way round my friend, no one in the north will ever forget what went on in Sandallar and Atlilar,

The killings on Sandalar and attilar and Tochni (total 120 persons) happened one month after Turkey Invaded and after she killed 6000 GCs

[MR-from-NG]

more propaganda shit form your mouth

do you at least acknowledge that in 74 cypriots fought against enosis and rejected it?

and then turkey invades?

How can I when one of my best mates was killed on the golf course in Nicosia and another was wounded and crippled for life by GC's whom you claim to be fighting against Enosis at that time.

Please stop living in denial. Had it not been for Turkeys intervention I would not be here writing this post now. I would be pushing up daisies.

[shahmaran]

Turkey intervened in 74 BECAUSE of the killings, not the other way round my friend, no one in the north will ever forget what went on in Sandallar and Atlilar,

The killings on Sandalar and attilar and Tochni (total 120 persons) happened one month after Turkey Invaded and after she killed 6000 GCs

thats not what im saying pyr, i know they didnt take place before, i was talking about the killings before 74, so answer to that plz..

[BirKibrisli]

My views are the voice of the majority the Kikapolous's and Biropolous's of this world are very few and far between, they live thousands of miles away in their utopian worlds and can only view matters second hand, they are diluted individuals who have lost all sense of what its like to be a proud Turkish Cypriot, it is them that have sold their souls to foreign masters not us. Our "masters" as you call them are our family with whom we choose to live and work, if this makes you uncomfortable thats your problem not mine as you must consider that is it you that brought about and perpetuates the current state of affairs.

Your views are not those of the majority.They are the views of the Deep TRNC state. Even if they were the views of the majority (by some miracle because the TCs are no longer in the majority even in the TRNC) it does not follow that all majority views are necessarily right.
If being a proud TC is to hate your compatriots for misdeeds of their ancestors;to accept to live on handouts from a foreign government;to build an economy on gambling,drugs and prostitution;to appropriate the land of your compatriots driven away from their homes at gunpoint;
to accept being second class citizens in your own enclave because you are too cowardly to demand your rights (the only constitutional rights you have) in the RoC;then my dear Viewpoint you are welcome to the title of Proud Turkish Cypriot I will be satisfied to be a plain Cypriot,and hang my head in shame that people like you exist in this world...

[Pyrpolizer]

Was the consititution working?

It was unworkable right from the start.

Was the enosis dream alive?

No it was not. From 1968 onwards Makarios was publicly speaking not for the desirable but for the possible.

Was there a coup?

Yes. Under which not even one TC was hurt.

Was there a man called sampson who broadcast he would wipe out the TCs?

There was, he held power for only 6 days. He did not broadcast anything in 1974. He said that many years later. However he lost power the 6th day and Klerides took over. 2 days later Turkey Invaded. Klerides was the greatest GC Phiilo-Turk ever.(He was the one who donated you the Anan Plan). So why Turkey Invaded?

Was the TC community living in Ghettos?

Yes because this is where Ankara wanted them to be, to have them safe during the Invasion. Each ghetto was governed by at least one General from Turkey. True or not that each and every ghetto or enclave was governed by a mainland Turkish General?

Was the island at risk of becoming yet another Greek island so close to Turkey?

No. The Enosis dream started dying from 1968. That’s why the coupists intervened in 1974, but still they failed.

The intervention was a culmination of many negatives which threatened the existence of TCs, thats why Turkey intervened.

There was no threatening of the existence of TCs, because they were already concentrated in enclaves. The Invasion was the final strike of a well pre-planned process of Taksim, and the only way to come to that was the concentration of the TCs in enclaves and their suffering. True the best servants to have the policy of TCs concentrating in enclaves were the GC extremists. If you are unable to see who wanted you to be in enclaves you will constantly lose the whole picture.

The very same policy of having the TCs concentrated in a bigger enclave and continue suffereing the consequences is practiced EVEN TODAY, as the Taksim dream has not yet finished. It will finish when TRashNcan gets recognised i.e NEVER.

[shahmaran]

so what you are ever so eloquenty suggesting is that, if Turkey hadnt intervened it would all have been sweet and dandy, and we would all have gone back to our lives and lived happily ever after?

its funny how only the TCs are the ones to dissaggree....

[Viewpoint]

My views are the voice of the majority the Kikapolous's and Biropolous's of this world are very few and far between, they live thousands of miles away in their utopian worlds and can only view matters second hand, they are diluted individuals who have lost all sense of what its like to be a proud Turkish Cypriot, it is them that have sold their souls to foreign masters not us. Our "masters" as you call them are our family with whom we choose to live and work, if this makes you uncomfortable thats your problem not mine as you must consider that is it you that brought about and perpetuates the current state of affairs.

Your views are not those of the majority.They are the views of the Deep TRNC state. Even if they were the views of the majority (by some miracle because the TCs are no longer in the majority even in the TRNC) it does not follow that all majority views are necessarily right.
If being a proud TC is to hate your compatriots for misdeeds of their ancestors;to accept to live on handouts from a foreign government;to build an economy on gambling,drugs and prostitution;to appropriate the land of your compatriots driven away from their homes at gunpoint;
to accept being second class citizens in your own enclave because you are too cowardly to demand your rights (the only constitutional rights you have) in the RoC;then my dear Viewpoint you are welcome to the title of Proud Turkish Cypriot I will be satisfied to be a plain Cypriot,and hang my head in shame that people like you exist in this world...

Birkopolous even if you are 100% correct so what? you really need to do some soul searching as you are being hypocritcal living in a foreign land and dictacting to people who live in another country how to resolve issues which are not one sided but can impact our lives not yours in a cery negative and dangerous way. You are a text book individual with no hands on experience of today all you know is the past. We TCs are the TRNC a mosiac of TCs and Turks why does this make you so uncomfortable? you are a diluted individual who has lost the warmth of his roots, obviously you would rather be a mosiac with Greek Cypriots that is your choice not ours if it was we would all be living in the south, you are free to do so whenever you wish no one is stopping you but remember you have no right to force me or any other TC.

[Kikapu]

For the upteenth time will you share a drink with a fellow Cypriot or are you prohibited from doing so.
You pretent that the occupied part of Cyprus that you so proudly present is the ONLY LEGITIMATE STATE OF CYPRUS !!!!!
See what you did , you made me use these stupid little emoticons , first time in almost a year on the forum. But you do take the biscuit mate !

Miltiades,

You are wasting your time with "Venereal Pus". He has lived in a controlled environment all his life and now enjoys his life on the backs of other peoples misery. He wants to hang onto his ill gained property and be a "whore" by selling himself, to sell his Country of Cyprus through propaganda. He is nothing but a pathetic cartoon character that enjoys living in the "Micky Mouse" de facto state called "TRNC" and still has the nerve to call himself a proud "Turkish Cypriot". He obviously does not know the difference between his ass and the hole in the ground. Do not expect him to face another "True Cypriot" in the face and have a drink with. How could he ever explain himself to you, with what he has done and doing to our Country of Cyprus. Then again, he has shown to be a GUTLESS COWARD.

Svetlana time to take action don't you think?

Lana,

Tell "Village Puppy" to stop BARKING at you, because my post was directed at Miltiades.

[Pyrpolizer]

you are too cowardly to demand your rights (the only constitutional rights you have) in the RoC

Very true Birkibrisli. VP prefers to let the RoC which also belongs to him to be run by the GCs and some other minorities only. He cannot understand he has rights over there and he can actually screw the GCs if he asks them back. He cannot see it is the responsibility of that state (currently run by GCs) to accomodate TCs in the governing process, and take care of their wellfare.
Let the RoC screw itself by paying for your welfare, and the rent asked by any GC on whose property you are living VP. Until you come back to your feet and be able to support yourself and contribute as a proud self respecting citizen.
The path you are now walking is leading you nowhere else than to the arms of Turkey, they pay for you as if you are a beggar, one day they will ask their money back. You have nothing to pay them back, all you have is yourself that will be driven out of here and be replaced by more and more and more fijia, and fijia, and fijia…

NB. fijia, are the settlers it is the same word as in GC dialect. It means sea wracks.