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[Pyrpolizer]

Dear Pyro

No, I am not here 24 hours a day, I have a social life and run a company, so please do not expect me to be here at 2am reading CyProb. As for my knowledge of the Cyprus issue, you are ill placed to make judgements. I choose to rarely post here and retain a neurtrality. Given this, I am intrigued by your assertion of bias, tell me am I pro -TC or pro-GC?


Lana

Quite right Lana. So what shall we do? Change the forum to one where the posts are FIRST approved by a moderator, and THEN allowed to enter? There exist such forums you know...This would bring out a perfectly angelic forum wouldn't it?

In view of this, and in view of the fact no Moderator can watch 24/7 to delete ONE or TWO offensive posts that cause the SUBSEQUENT chain reaction, I still maintain my position that deleting of posts AFTER the whole discussion has evolved, is simply not right. The reason is that no post is fully offensive. It also contains argumentation and deleting them en masse brakes the natural flow of discussions.

In my opinion it is better to lock the topic, like you were doing before. Don't you think this particular topic is way out after 38 pages??

Anyway, personally I will withdraw if my posts continue getting deleted.

[Pyrpolizer]

And Svetlana, about the bias I simply asked other members to tell their opinion. That was not a statement, it was a question. So why you got so upset?

[fanourıo]

i pass, 1. people are rude and nationalist against each other, hence the use of flags, hense sensoring, but i can not take part in a discussion where ppeople are either rude or sensored, end of story deadlock bye

[shahmaran]

Kifeas wrote

There are no sanctions on the TC community as such,

Off course not, everything is fine, TC can compete in international sporting events

TCs can perfectly compete in international sporting events, as long as they
register themselves under the corresponding RoC sports federations, and they compete under the flag of the RoC, the only legitimate and internationally recognised state entity in Cyprus. Already a year ago, one TC athlete that has chosen to register himself under the Cyprus Athletics federation, participated in the Mediterranean Athletics games and the European small states Olympiad, under the RoC flag and as a member of the Cypriot delegation, and has won himself and his country a bronze medal.

I can fly direct to Ercan if I want too

No you cannot fly direct to "Ercan" (Tymbou airport is the proper name) because "Ercan" is an airport of the RoC that is under illegal occupation, and the RoC which is the owner of the airport has declared it closed as a port of entry inside the RoC. You can always fly directly to Larnaka International airport and Pafos International airport any time you wish, like so many law abiding Turkish Cypriot citizens of the RoC do every day.

I can post a letter direct to the TRNC

No you cannot post a letter directly to the "TRNC" because such entity as a subject of international law and thus also member of the international federation of postal services doesn't exist! You can post a letter directly to the RoC, with the proper address in the north (using the proper and internationally registered name places in the occupied areas of the RoC, as they are registered in the UN,) and it will be delivered by the UN mission in Cyprus to its recipient in the occupied north, like the GC enclaves in Karpaz and the Maronites are doing all these years.

TC can sell their products to whoever they choose

Yes, the TCs can sell their products to whoever they want, provided they do so through the legally operating RoC ports of entry /exit (Limassol and Larnaka harbours and Pafos and Larnaka airports,) and provided the raw materials for the production of these goods were imported through the legally operating ports of the RoC.

The list goes on and on, but hey you keep believing that there are no sanctions on the TC if helps you sleep at night!

No there are no sanctions on the TCs as people (as individuals,) just because they are TCs! There are sanctions against the illegal regime in the occupied north, simply because it is an illegal one. If the TCs choose to want to do their businesses through an illegal regime, then consequently they will suffer the same sanctions like the illegal regime. If however they choose to work with the legal entity of Cyprus, which is the RoC, then they have no problem or restriction, other than the ones the illegal Turkish occupying troops are /will impose on them.

Kifeas,

I'm sorry you had to spend your time responding to Paaul12's, but he was just "yanking your chain", with sarcasm, as being "No Sanctions" on the TC's.

the best part was when he had to repeat the legality crap with every point he made...

but Kifeas why would we want to do any of that, we are from TRNC

plus this hasnt been THE way to live, for the last 30 years, what do you expect us to do, wake up one morning and just embrace the RoC?

[Kifeas]

You are free not to want to do any of that, in the same way that the RoC is free not to allow you to trade through its occupied territories under false pretences that you are the “TRNC!” It is your choice to claim that your country is the “TRNC,” as it is also the choice of the RoC to maintain that the occupied north is part of its sovereign territory. What I do not understand is why you keep complaining about your isolation, since it is you that maintains the “right” to act under false pretences and illegal and arbitrary ways and manners.

I also want to be trading from within Cyprus and with the rest of the world under the laws and documents of the “republic of the moon,” however I am not allowed to do so by the laws of the RoC.

[Viewpoint]

For the upteenth time will you share a drink with a fellow Cypriot or are you prohibited from doing so.
You pretent that the occupied part of Cyprus that you so proudly present is the ONLY LEGITIMATE STATE OF CYPRUS !!!!!
See what you did , you made me use these stupid little emoticons , first time in almost a year on the forum. But you do take the biscuit mate !

Miltiades,

You are wasting your time with "Venereal Pus". He has lived in a controlled environment all his life and now enjoys his life on the backs of other peoples misery. He wants to hang onto his ill gained property and be a "whore" by selling himself, to sell his Country of Cyprus through propaganda. He is nothing but a pathetic cartoon character that enjoys living in the "Micky Mouse" de facto state called "TRNC" and still has the nerve to call himself a proud "Turkish Cypriot". He obviously does not know the difference between his ass and the hole in the ground. Do not expect him to face another "True Cypriot" in the face and have a drink with. How could he ever explain himself to you, with what he has done and doing to our Country of Cyprus. Then again, he has shown to be a GUTLESS COWARD.

Svetlana time to take action don't you think?

[shahmaran]

You are free not to want to do any of that, in the same way that the RoC is free not to allow you to trade through its occupied territories under false pretences that you are the “TRNC!” It is your choice to claim that your country is the “TRNC,” as it is also the choice of the RoC to maintain that the occupied north is part of its sovereign territory. What I do not understand is why you keep complaining about your isolation, since it is you that maintains the “right” to act under false pretences and illegal and arbitrary ways and manners.

I also want to be trading from within Cyprus and with the rest of the world under the laws and documents of the “republic of the moon,” however I am not allowed to do so by the laws of the RoC.

Right because its THAT simple, what could possibly be more to the life of a TC other than trade and ports right?

[pitsilos]

this is exactly what kifeas is trying to figure out. why the roc ain't letting him trade as the republic of the moon. go figure :

ps. i think kifeas should have the right to trade as the republic of the moon in the roc, what do you think?

[miltiades]

SHAHMARAN WROTE:
"""""but Kifeas why would we want to do any of that, we are from TRNC """""

Shah , you are now confusing me good and proper , you earlier refered to Turkey as your country , now you are saying you are from Northern Cyprus , are you a Cypriot or a Turk from Turkey.

[MR-from-NG]

Let me give you a bit of a hand here,if I may please Kikapu?

Take out the following propaganda points and Viewpoint will have nothing to say:

1.Turkey saved us in 1974 from certain genocide...

2. We are nothing without Turkey,or rather we are GC food...

3. You have elected an ex-EOKA man and Turk-hater as President...

4.We don't want to be a minority in a GC run state...

5.Gc's will never share power with TCs,they want to subjugate us and assimilate us...

6. We said YES to the AP and you said NO,that proves you don't want reunification...
7. We have lived peacefully with the status quo for 33 years,that proves we cannot live together...

8.You have our land in the South and we have your land in the North...

9.We got rid of Denktash and put Talat in who has his hand of peace in the air,but Tpapa is not talking to him...

10.The RoC is not a legitimate government as it does not represent the TCs...

11. If you want to show us godwill,just remove the sanctions and isolation measures...

Birkibrisli, Kikapu,

You consider the above as propoganda. TC's concider them to be hard and sad facts.

You both have shown your true colours and its damn ugly.

You should both lay off VP. He represents 99.9% of the TC's. None of the other TC's participating on this forum subscribe to your views, you are both playing a popularity contest game and are selling out and back-stabbing your brothers to score points. Its shameful to say the least.