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EU to end sanctions on North?

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Postby shahmaran » Sat Feb 03, 2007 12:38 am

me too...
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Postby BirKibrisli » Sat Feb 03, 2007 9:39 am

So what have we decided? will the EU end the sanctions on the North or not??? :)
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Postby Kifeas » Sat Feb 03, 2007 10:05 am

Birkibrisli wrote:So what have we decided? will the EU end the sanctions on the North or not??? :)


Sanctions on the north cannot be ended by the EU or anybody else, because they are the decisions of international courts due to the area being an illegally occupied territory of the RoC, falsely claiming to be an independed state by the very occupying power. There are no sanctions on the TC community as such, since they can always contact all their normal activities using RoC documents and via the RoC ports and airports. At the moment, 70,000 TCs or 70% of the members of the TC community are possessing RoC documents, and thus can enjoy the same rights like any other EU citizens, provided they do this within the context of international legality. No one is prohibiting them to exercise their rights apart from the occupying power and its representatives in the occupied north.
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Postby miltiades » Sat Feb 03, 2007 10:39 am

VP WROTE in response to my asking him to share a drink with me >
"""""and for the upteenth time thanks but no thanks, you insult me personally and then ask me out for a drink, well I dont see this happening, how do I know its not a trap to get me beaten up? or something else that would make me uncomfortable.

I only know the TRNC which I love dearly and this is Cyprus for me not the " RoC" which is a GC state run by GCs for GCs simple as that."""""

KIFEAS WROTE :
"""""At the moment, 70,000 TCs or 70% of the members of the TC community are possessing RoC documents, and thus can enjoy the same rights like any other EU citizens, provided they do this within the context of international legality. No one is prohibiting them to exercise their rights apart from the occupying power and its representatives in the occupied north.""""

Kifeas , VP says there is only one Republic in Cyprus and that is the "TRNC " So what the hell are these 70 thousand T/C doing with documents of the illegal RoC !!! I wonder if I could apply for documents from VPs Republic and also wonder whether there are Cypriots queuing up for a "passport" from the "TRNC"

VP , you need to tell your masters that you are living in a fools paradise and ignoring realities and legalities is detrimental to the interests of all Cypriots. Your blatantly divisive views are anathema to all of Cyprus and the more Kikapus and Birkiprisly we have the more constructive we become.
You have sold your soul to a foreign nation under the pretext of becoming an independent state within a state but have failed miserably when thousands of our T/C compatriots have chosen the legal documents rather than the mickey mouse ones from the "trnc" that no nation on earth, including all of the 28 Muslim ones , recognise.
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Postby paaul12 » Sat Feb 03, 2007 10:56 am

Kifeas wrote

There are no sanctions on the TC community as such,


Off course not, everything is fine, TC can compete in international sporting events

I can fly direct to Ercan if I want too

I can post a letter direct to the TRNC

TC can sell their products to whoever they choose

The list goes on and on, but hey you keep believing that there are no sanctions on the TC if helps you sleep at night! :lol: :lol: :lol:
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Postby zan » Sat Feb 03, 2007 10:58 am

Kifeas wrote:
Birkibrisli wrote:So what have we decided? will the EU end the sanctions on the North or not??? :)


Sanctions on the north cannot be ended by the EU or anybody else, because they are the decisions of international courts due to the area being an illegally occupied territory of the RoC, falsely claiming to be an independed state by the very occupying power. There are no sanctions on the TC community as such, since they can always contact all their normal activities using RoC documents and via the RoC ports and airports. At the moment, 70,000 TCs or 70% of the members of the TC community are possessing RoC documents, and thus can enjoy the same rights like any other EU citizens, provided they do this within the context of international legality. No one is prohibiting them to exercise their rights apart from the occupying power and its representatives in the occupied north.




First sanctions and then no sanctions :?


In fact there are no sanctions but embargoes and they can be RELAXED any time that anybody wants. They have no legal precedence.
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Postby Kikapu » Sat Feb 03, 2007 11:02 am

miltiades wrote:For the upteenth time will you share a drink with a fellow Cypriot or are you prohibited from doing so.
You pretent that the occupied part of Cyprus that you so proudly present is the ONLY LEGITIMATE STATE OF CYPRUS !!!!! :P
See what you did , you made me use these stupid little emoticons , first time in almost a year on the forum. But you do take the biscuit mate !


Miltiades,

You are wasting your time with "Venereal Pus". He has lived in a controlled environment all his life and now enjoys his life on the backs of other peoples misery. He wants to hang onto his ill gained property and be a "whore" by selling himself, to sell his Country of Cyprus through propaganda. He is nothing but a pathetic cartoon character that enjoys living in the "Micky Mouse" de facto state called "TRNC" and still has the nerve to call himself a proud "Turkish Cypriot". He obviously does not know the difference between his ass and the hole in the ground. Do not expect him to face another "True Cypriot" in the face and have a drink with. How could he ever explain himself to you, with what he has done and doing to our Country of Cyprus. Then again, he has shown to be a GUTLESS COWARD.
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Postby Kikapu » Sat Feb 03, 2007 11:11 am

[quote= "Vulgar Pus"] Wow-wow, sick bastard, fuck off, Kikapoulos, your colours are getting brighter and brighter VP. .[/quote]

Pyrpolizer,

Thanks for saving some of "Village Punks" quotes. I did not see this one. Must have happened while I was asleep. You see, I'm not a paid propagandist that stays up all night, being paid to sell my Country.!!
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Postby Kifeas » Sat Feb 03, 2007 11:29 am

paaul12 wrote:Kifeas wrote

There are no sanctions on the TC community as such,


Off course not, everything is fine, TC can compete in international sporting events


TCs can perfectly compete in international sporting events, as long as they
register themselves under the corresponding RoC sports federations, and they compete under the flag of the RoC, the only legitimate and internationally recognised state entity in Cyprus. Already a year ago, one TC athlete that has chosen to register himself under the Cyprus Athletics federation, participated in the Mediterranean Athletics games and the European small states Olympiad, under the RoC flag and as a member of the Cypriot delegation, and has won himself and his country a bronze medal.

I can fly direct to Ercan if I want too

No you cannot fly direct to "Ercan" (Tymbou airport is the proper name) because "Ercan" is an airport of the RoC that is under illegal occupation, and the RoC which is the owner of the airport has declared it closed as a port of entry inside the RoC. You can always fly directly to Larnaka International airport and Pafos International airport any time you wish, like so many law abiding Turkish Cypriot citizens of the RoC do every day.

I can post a letter direct to the TRNC

No you cannot post a letter directly to the "TRNC" because such entity as a subject of international law and thus also member of the international federation of postal services doesn't exist! You can post a letter directly to the RoC, with the proper address in the north (using the proper and internationally registered name places in the occupied areas of the RoC, as they are registered in the UN,) and it will be delivered by the UN mission in Cyprus to its recipient in the occupied north, like the GC enclaves in Karpaz and the Maronites are doing all these years.
TC can sell their products to whoever they choose
Yes, the TCs can sell their products to whoever they want, provided they do so through the legally operating RoC ports of entry /exit (Limassol and Larnaka harbours and Pafos and Larnaka airports,) and provided the raw materials for the production of these goods were imported through the legally operating ports of the RoC.
The list goes on and on, but hey you keep believing that there are no sanctions on the TC if helps you sleep at night!


No there are no sanctions on the TCs as people (as individuals,) just because they are TCs! There are sanctions against the illegal regime in the occupied north, simply because it is an illegal one. If the TCs choose to want to do their businesses through an illegal regime, then consequently they will suffer the same sanctions like the illegal regime. If however they choose to work with the legal entity of Cyprus, which is the RoC, then they have no problem or restriction, other than the ones the illegal Turkish occupying troops are /will impose on them.
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Postby Kikapu » Sat Feb 03, 2007 11:53 am

Kifeas wrote:
paaul12 wrote:Kifeas wrote

There are no sanctions on the TC community as such,


Off course not, everything is fine, TC can compete in international sporting events


TCs can perfectly compete in international sporting events, as long as they
register themselves under the corresponding RoC sports federations, and they compete under the flag of the RoC, the only legitimate and internationally recognised state entity in Cyprus. Already a year ago, one TC athlete that has chosen to register himself under the Cyprus Athletics federation, participated in the Mediterranean Athletics games and the European small states Olympiad, under the RoC flag and as a member of the Cypriot delegation, and has won himself and his country a bronze medal.

I can fly direct to Ercan if I want too

No you cannot fly direct to "Ercan" (Tymbou airport is the proper name) because "Ercan" is an airport of the RoC that is under illegal occupation, and the RoC which is the owner of the airport has declared it closed as a port of entry inside the RoC. You can always fly directly to Larnaka International airport and Pafos International airport any time you wish, like so many law abiding Turkish Cypriot citizens of the RoC do every day.

I can post a letter direct to the TRNC

No you cannot post a letter directly to the "TRNC" because such entity as a subject of international law and thus also member of the international federation of postal services doesn't exist! You can post a letter directly to the RoC, with the proper address in the north (using the proper and internationally registered name places in the occupied areas of the RoC, as they are registered in the UN,) and it will be delivered by the UN mission in Cyprus to its recipient in the occupied north, like the GC enclaves in Karpaz and the Maronites are doing all these years.
TC can sell their products to whoever they choose
Yes, the TCs can sell their products to whoever they want, provided they do so through the legally operating RoC ports of entry /exit (Limassol and Larnaka harbours and Pafos and Larnaka airports,) and provided the raw materials for the production of these goods were imported through the legally operating ports of the RoC.
The list goes on and on, but hey you keep believing that there are no sanctions on the TC if helps you sleep at night!


No there are no sanctions on the TCs as people (as individuals,) just because they are TCs! There are sanctions against the illegal regime in the occupied north, simply because it is an illegal one. If the TCs choose to want to do their businesses through an illegal regime, then consequently they will suffer the same sanctions like the illegal regime. If however they choose to work with the legal entity of Cyprus, which is the RoC, then they have no problem or restriction, other than the ones the illegal Turkish occupying troops are /will impose on them.


Kifeas,

I'm sorry you had to spend your time responding to Paaul12's, but he was just "yanking your chain", with sarcasm, as being "No Sanctions" on the TC's.
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